Garscube Road End Posted January 1, 2018 Report Share Posted January 1, 2018 How long are Turnbull and Samons contract ? I'm sure it's a season loan for both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elevenone Posted January 1, 2018 Report Share Posted January 1, 2018 Gary Fraser signs new deal until end of season. Â https://ptfc.co.uk/ptfc-news/fraser-signs-contract-extension/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garscube Road End Posted January 1, 2018 Report Share Posted January 1, 2018 Gary Fraser signs new deal until end of season. Â https://ptfc.co.uk/ptfc-news/fraser-signs-contract-extension/ Can't say I'm surprised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibble Posted January 1, 2018 Report Share Posted January 1, 2018 Don't get the Gary Fraser contract extension at all. 12 appearances over the last 3 seasons and carrying another knock. I think the club has invested so much in Gary over the last 4 to 5 years that they are desperate to get a return. I believe when he came from Bolton he was one of highest paid players at the club when he was given the 3 year deal.. Maybe his new deal is basic plus appearance fees. Just hope it does t preclude us from getting some fresh midfielders in. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowenBoys Posted January 1, 2018 Report Share Posted January 1, 2018 Not particularly excited about this (nor surprised). Never been convinced by Fraser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weebaw1 Posted January 1, 2018 Report Share Posted January 1, 2018 Not too pleased about the Fraser deal. Â But this is last chance saloon. Come on Gary, show everyone the talent you have and screw the bobbin! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted January 1, 2018 Report Share Posted January 1, 2018 Maybe his new deal is basic plus appearance fees. Just hope it does t preclude us from getting some fresh midfielders in. Â Maybe just an extension of his contract that's just finished and I'm sure that will not have been excessive. The early announcement suggests this is just formalising what was probably always on the cards. Even if Fraser had left I'm not too sure about the plural re midfielders. We've already got Bannigan, Barton, Woods, Osman, McCarthy and Edwards in central roles plus Gary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy Posted January 1, 2018 Report Share Posted January 1, 2018 Gary Fraser signs new deal until end of season. Â https://ptfc.co.uk/ptfc-news/fraser-signs-contract-extension/ Â This will be a good thing, trust me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnome on the Bing Posted January 1, 2018 Report Share Posted January 1, 2018 This decision isn't primarily about sentimentality or loyalty, as some have suggested. It's a straightforward calculation: is there another midfielder out there, who can be brought in on the money that would be saved by releasing Fraser, who is actually better than him. Archie clearly doesn't believe there is, and I'm sure he and the team are scanning the market constantly. We have invested a fair amount in Gary, yes, but that's because he's clearly a talented player. Few in the squad possess his range of passing. Â What's particularly pleasing about this decision, in my view, is that it indicates that Gary's most recent knock isn't serious, and that Archie and the medical team believe his fitness levels are such that he can make a significant contribution in the second half of the season. Fingers crossed. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted January 1, 2018 Report Share Posted January 1, 2018 On the one hand u can understand the Fraser contract extension - one of many we have given him - he has a few months to prove his fitness and value On the other hand and this is a genuine question when was the last time he really played well and influenced 90mins for us ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Col Posted January 1, 2018 Report Share Posted January 1, 2018 Waste of a wage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter of '63 Posted January 1, 2018 Report Share Posted January 1, 2018 I'm quite pleased the the club are giving Gary Fraser until the end of the season to prove his worth. I was behind the goal at Tynecastle when his 25 yard thunderbolt exploded into the net to ensure that we wouldn't be relegated - it's one of my favourite Thistle goals ever. His performance when we beat Ross County 4-0 at Firhill the following season is probably the best individual display by a Thistle midfielder since we were promoted - a goal and raking defence-splitting passes for the three other goals. Â However that was over 3 years ago. Since then his form between very lengthy injury absences has been poor although I understand he may have had some personal issues. He owes the club, supporters and in particular Alan Archibald...I hope he takes what will surely be his last chance to repay them. Â Our midfield has been the major flaw this season - Barton is outstanding in defence but inept in midfield...I struggle to recall Edwards having any meaningful possession or winning tackles in most games and doubt he has had three assists in his time with Thistle....Woods looks a decent journeyman midfielder who has yet to last 90 minutes...McCarthy has promise but lacks experience...Osman's defensive capabilities have been missed but he is a fairly limited footballer...Bannigan is a class act but worryingly is not mentioned on Archie's list of players due back immediately after the winter break. Â As Gnome on the Bing commented, there is a very limited prospect of signing a midfielder of Fraser's potential ability in the transfer window. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Stronach Posted January 1, 2018 Report Share Posted January 1, 2018 Waste of a wage. Â How much is Gary Fraser being paid each week? Who would you have signed to replace him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Col Posted January 1, 2018 Report Share Posted January 1, 2018 Don't know his salary - do you? But however much it is, would it not be better spent on a guy who is fit and has played matches in the last 12 months? Maybe someone who doesn't petulantly boot a ball into a stand full of fans? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennymac29 Posted January 1, 2018 Report Share Posted January 1, 2018 Not sure why we didnt go back to the pay as you play type deal that we had for Sid Donnelly. Assuming that was actually the case back in the day and that it is still legal? Â For a squad player surely we need to put some sort of performance based incentive to those that are rarely available for selection for whatever reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted January 1, 2018 Report Share Posted January 1, 2018 You wouldn't extend his contract on the basis of what we as fans have seen over the past few seasons. Â But I'm happy to accept that the people making the decision are better informed than we are, and therefore I'm also happy to see how it goes. Best of luck to him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jags on tour Posted January 1, 2018 Report Share Posted January 1, 2018 I’ve always liked the look of Liam Henderson at Celtic, he would just fit right into our team but I read recently about some seria b team in Italy looking at him, plus if he was going anywhere in Scotland it would probably be back to Hibs. For those that watch the Dev games in full as opposed to me watching the highlights, is Neil McGlaughlin likely to make an impact at this level? scored a ton of goals at that level but I suppose Nisbet has aswell and not broke into the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted January 2, 2018 Report Share Posted January 2, 2018 I’ve always liked the look of Liam Henderson at Celtic, he would just fit right into our team but I read recently about some seria b team in Italy looking at him, plus if he was going anywhere in Scotland it would probably be back to Hibs. For those that watch the Dev games in full as opposed to me watching the highlights, is Neil McGlaughlin likely to make an impact at this level? scored a ton of goals at that level but I suppose Nisbet has aswell and not broke into the team.  McLaughlin looks a natural finisher. Nisbet has other attributes like strength but will not convert chances to goals as effectively as Wee Neil. I've no idea whether McLaughlin will make it our level, I'd be surprised if any one at the Club will know anything like for sure. I do know Dools rates the lad highly and of all the front players I've seen over the years at U20/U19 level Neil has impressed me the most. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
partickthedog Posted January 2, 2018 Report Share Posted January 2, 2018 I'm quite pleased the the club are giving Gary Fraser until the end of the season to prove his worth. I was behind the goal at Tynecastle when his 25 yard thunderbolt exploded into the net to ensure that we wouldn't be relegated - it's one of my favourite Thistle goals ever. His performance when we beat Ross County 4-0 at Firhill the following season is probably the best individual display by a Thistle midfielder since we were promoted - a goal and raking defence-splitting passes for the three other goals. However that was over 3 years ago. Since then his form between very lengthy injury absences has been poor although I understand he may have had some personal issues. He owes the club, supporters and in particular Alan Archibald...I hope he takes what will surely be his last chance to repay them. Our midfield has been the major flaw this season - Barton is outstanding in defence but inept in midfield...I struggle to recall Edwards having any meaningful possession or winning tackles in most games and doubt he has had three assists in his time with Thistle....Woods looks a decent journeyman midfielder who has yet to last 90 minutes...McCarthy has promise but lacks experience...Osman's defensive capabilities have been missed but he is a fairly limited footballer...Bannigan is a class act but worryingly is not mentioned on Archie's list of players due back immediately after the winter break. As Gnome on the Bing commented, there is a very limited prospect of signing a midfielder of Fraser's potential ability in the transfer window. Â Gary was also brilliant in the 4-0 away win against what was then a very strong Inverness side on a good run of form. However, I appreciate that this was still over 3 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jukebox Rebel Posted January 2, 2018 Report Share Posted January 2, 2018 This will be a good thing, trust me. Ok, I.m relying on you Sandy, don't let me down now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jags on tour Posted January 2, 2018 Report Share Posted January 2, 2018 Falkirk have signed Sean Welsh, Balatoni has left Falkirk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garscube Road End Posted January 2, 2018 Report Share Posted January 2, 2018 Falkirk have signed Sean Welsh, Balatoni has left Falkirk. Good luck to Sean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted January 2, 2018 Report Share Posted January 2, 2018 Falkirk have signed Sean Welsh, Balatoni has left Falkirk. Â Good luck to Welsh. He'll maybe need it as I hear there's a wee bit of friction behind the scenes these days at Falkirk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stillresigned Posted January 2, 2018 Report Share Posted January 2, 2018 P and B Livvy fans saying we are monitoring two of their player Centre Back and midfielder. I was impressed by the centre-half when we played them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stillresigned Posted January 2, 2018 Report Share Posted January 2, 2018 I'm sure Archie has good reason to stand by him. I'm afraid that I'm more inclined to trust the coaching staff in their estimation of a players utility than I would some on here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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