douglas clark Posted May 22, 2018 Report Share Posted May 22, 2018 Fearchar, I kind of agree with you, though Erskine may have a year or two in himself. I agree that Penrice and McCarthy have to be seen as amongst the future of this club. It is absolutely essential that we promote folk from the 'Development League' to playing first team football. Otherwise, what is the point of it? On the subject of Doolan, AFAIK Doolan is on a long term contract and I, for one, see him as a future manager. He also scores goals. Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douglas clark Posted May 22, 2018 Report Share Posted May 22, 2018 I am also quite fond of our daft Aussie. I think we ought to be fighting to retain Mr runabout, otherwise Mr always fit, Ryan Edwards? Am I wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted May 22, 2018 Report Share Posted May 22, 2018 I'm going to be controversial and put Erskine and Doolan in the maybe category. I'm not questioning their ability and their commitment, my problem is with their ability to play for a full 90 minutes. It is rare for either of them to start and finish a game, so if we start them both, we know that 2 substitutions are used up, which leaves few options to change the formation. If we pick up a couple of knocks elsewhere and they do need to play for 90 minutes, we have 2 players who are dead on their legs. It maybe that they are carrying knocks this year, or it maybe that the fitness training is a problem and it is possible that the pacein the Championship might help them (Livi didn't suggest that), but I think that they are probably now best as impact players which is why I have them as maybes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king of spain Posted May 22, 2018 Report Share Posted May 22, 2018 19 minutes ago, Dick Dastardly said: I'm going to be controversial and put Erskine and Doolan in the maybe category. I'm not questioning their ability and their commitment, my problem is with their ability to play for a full 90 minutes. It is rare for either of them to start and finish a game, so if we start them both, we know that 2 substitutions are used up, which leaves few options to change the formation. If we pick up a couple of knocks elsewhere and they do need to play for 90 minutes, we have 2 players who are dead on their legs. It maybe that they are carrying knocks this year, or it maybe that the fitness training is a problem and it is possible that the pacein the Championship might help them (Livi didn't suggest that), but I think that they are probably now best as impact players which is why I have them as maybes I'd keep Doolan but I 100% agree re Erskine, absolutely done and has had a shocker of a season bar looking like he cared since the split, same would go for Lawless to be honest, his best spell came playing as a left wing back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fearchar Posted May 22, 2018 Report Share Posted May 22, 2018 3 hours ago, douglas clark said: I am also quite fond of our daft Aussie. I think we ought to be fighting to retain Mr runabout, otherwise Mr always fit, Ryan Edwards? Am I wrong? The future Elliott - capable of developing his game on the basis of fitness and energy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fearchar Posted May 22, 2018 Report Share Posted May 22, 2018 3 hours ago, douglas clark said: ...I agree that Penrice and McCarthy have to be seen as amongst the future of this club. It is absolutely essential that we promote folk from the 'Development League' to playing first team football. Otherwise, what is the point of it? On the subject of Doolan, AFAIK Doolan is on a long term contract and I, for one, see him as a future manager. He also scores goals. Doolan worked in community football for Kilmarnock, and might end up in that side of the club's activities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king of spain Posted May 22, 2018 Report Share Posted May 22, 2018 Guys like Elliott and Edwards are a large part of where we find ourself IMO. They aren't footballers but athletes, we have very little players with football brians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Murray Posted May 22, 2018 Report Share Posted May 22, 2018 1 hour ago, king of spain said: Guys like Elliott and Edwards are a large part of where we find ourself IMO. They aren't footballers but athletes, we have very little players with football brians. Harsh! They are decent players at bottom six premiership level. Would like to keep both but probably unlikely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThickAsThieves Posted May 22, 2018 Report Share Posted May 22, 2018 Of the 14 players I'd retain (quite a few kids) for next season, I think: Will stay Sneddon Penrice McCarthy Lamont McLaughlin Erskine Doolan Probably will stay Cerny Elliott Bannigan 50/50 Keown Edwards Spittal Storey Used them to have a quick go at putting together a fairly realistic starting eleven together for next season, and a wish list for signing positions. Cerny Elliott - Keown - New CB - Penrice McCarthy - New CM Spittal - Erskine - New W Doolan Subs: Sneddon, New RB, New CB, Bannigan, Edwards, New AM, Storey. Reserves: New CM, McLaughlin, Lamont, New ST. So that'd be 8 new signings at a minimum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Gekantawa Posted May 22, 2018 Report Share Posted May 22, 2018 5 minutes ago, ThickAsThieves said: Of the 14 players I'd retain (quite a few kids) for next season, I think: Will stay Sneddon Penrice McCarthy Lamont McLaughlin Erskine Doolan Probably will stay Cerny Elliott Bannigan 50/50 Keown Edwards Spittal Storey Used them to have a quick go at putting together a fairly realistic starting eleven together for next season, and a wish list for signing positions. Cerny Elliott - Keown - New CB - Penrice McCarthy - New CM Spittal - Erskine - New W Doolan Subs: Sneddon, New RB, New CB, Bannigan, Edwards, New AM, Storey. Reserves: New CM, McLaughlin, Lamont, New ST. So that'd be 8 new signings at a minimum. Another option would be Penrice in midfield, as that's where he was played (very well apparently) at Livi, and find a new LB (or keep Booth if he's prepared to stay). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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