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We’ve shafted ourselves by not being good enough to be higher in the league. If we were sitting mid table this wouldn’t be an issue. It’s our fault that we’re staring relegation in the face.

It's not just a case of promoting the current top club in each league and relegating the bottom club. Scrapping the play offs will leave other clubs (eg ICT and Airdrie) properly miffed. Maybe Queen of the South and possibly Accies should be relegated as well. Assuming the season is over the fairest way is still temporary reconstruction. Sadly our authorities will be far more interested and occupied with coming up with a solution that'll be acceptable to both arse cheeks. We'll just be viewed as collateral damage.

So last season, with one game to go we should have been in the playoff ? It doesn’t matter where you are after 1, 10, 27 or 35 games - it’s where you are after 36 that counts.

I don’t necessarily think season ticket sales will plummet, the chip on our soldier mentality might actually galvanise the support. A lot will depend on how the club handle this so nice to see a statement today.

The club must oppose these pernicious proposals by all means available to them. Having played less games than those above us, and being only two points behind QOS, then relegation would fly in the face of any principle of “sporting integrity”. We all know from our disgraceful relegation in 2004 that the Scottish football authorities will lie and cheat when required , and are not to be trusted. The present board will be judged in the coming weeks and months by their actions in defence of the club.

You dont seem to be looking at the bigger picture. No one has a clue when this season can be completed. No one. If we just sit tight and wait for the sun to break through we run the risk of 1) destroying clubs who are on the edge right now, 2) if we do start near the end of the year, then next season is impacted hugely. A shortened season would present even more financial worries. And what of the player and staff contracts etc. It is a logistical nightmare. Either league reconstruction where a minimum of clubs are penalised or a season called off and go where it presently stands. And as for rolling over? I believe its fans looking at it pragmatically and accepting that there are bigger concerns out there.

After lapsing last season due to scunneration, I'll be renewing very soon, even though in reality (i.e., round trip of 18,436 km) I'll probably not get to see a single game "in the flesh."

I have never been a season ticket holder. Earlier in my life it was a question of being able to afford one and later a question of time and living away from Glasgow. I have also not been a regular contributer to any of the club's revenue streams. The exception is the purchase of club merchandise for my grandsons and myself and a financial contribution years ago when we were in danger of going out of business. So basically I was just a fan who went to games. This national crisis is extreme and is not only a challenge for us all but also a time for reflection. As a result I have decided to follow the example of fans on this thread and make a bigger financial commitment to the club I love and have followed all my life. I am of course fortunate that I can do this but compared to others my commitment hasn't over the years been enough. In additional to joining the Centenary Club (still to be finalised) I have decided to buy a season ticket. All the uncertainties mentioned by Big Col and others are of course valid but for me AlgarveJag has got it right - it's about supporting our club. It's also about doing our bit to make sure, at the end of this crisis, there is a club still to support! Thank you all for helping me make up my mind about this. I can look forward to a 12 hour round trip for every home game + lots Jags wins!

As soon as Low is away i will back this but for as long as she has her grubby mitts on our club it is not for me. These charlatans that are going for fan ownership are weak and will keep her as chairman of the club for sure.

Just checking on some old scribblings, and noticed that almost exactly three years ago Doolan scored his 100th and 101st goals for us as we beat Ross County 2-0, and moved into the top 6 in the top division. Heady heights! Then,...... the crash. It remains something of a mystery to me why our results after the split were so goddam awful..... like those of a team that had already been relegated and the players didn't give a monkeys. In fact I still think that most of the players for one reason or another simply downed tools and stopped trying, but the question is why did they do that? And why did the rot continue during the following season, and then the season after that..... Well, I suppose the last two seasons can be explained more easily, but I'll always look on that final quarter of the season in the top 6 and the season after it as a real black period, almost inexplicable. It was as if the entire club felt they didn't belong up there, and took the appropriate course of action to get us back down to where we are now! Not deliberately, of course, but maybe subconsciously? (Remember, every team in the SPL at least occasionally wins against the erse cheeks; we don't, and go into every game knowing it.)

Any decision should be based any situation where a full season cannot be completed for whatever reason.This is something which should have already have been put in place. The decision should apply if 25% ,50%,or 75% or whatever remains to be played. Would you promote / relegate a team if 75% or 50% still had to be played? Of course not. What happens when a game is abandoned, which is effectively what has happened to this season. Do we award the points based on the score at abandonment? Of course not. If the season cannot be extended to complete the games then the season is NULL AND VOID. Nobody wins and nobody loses. Money can be shared out based on points accumulated.In my opinion more clubs would vote for that than against

Who, in their right mind is?

Hopefully Budge follows through with her threat to sue as thats the only thing the SPFL will understand. Can't see our club having the means or desire to take the SPFL to task so our best hope is Hearts do and we get a way out due to their action

This is a decision made far too early in the course of this epidemic to warrant serious consideration by the Scottish football authorities. They appear to think that they are setting the agenda for the rest of the 'current' football season, and the start up of the next football season in Scotland. They have no clue whatsoever what will happen to Scotland, the UK and Europe in general with regards this virus, because the virus sets the agenda. Why they [the Scottish football authorities] think getting their ducks in a row regarding the 2019 / 2020 season and the start of the 2020 / 2021 season has any merit is beyond me. There is every chance there will be no football [or any type of mass participation gathering of any description] until there has been a vaccine developed, and tested, that can truly control this infection. It could be the progress towards controlling the infection will be 12 months, possibly more.

What about Hearts they are four points behind with no games in hand should they also not be relegated. what about Motherwell who has played 36 games saved by the10,000 seats rule that was forgotten about the following season at our expense and look at them now tge Authorities are deliberately hanging us out to dry because they think they can get away with it. That they are not doing it to hearts tells it’s own story

Clubs are desperate for the end of season money, to which they are entitled, in order to survive. They are being told, "you're not getting it unless you vote to relegate Partick Thistle and Stranraer". Abhorrent hardly does it justice.

I think it is fair to say that most football fans would like to see a return to a two league set up in which you played each team home and away however the very thought of this is anathema to some SPFL chairmen / chairwomen and to the sports media. Of course it's all down to money whether that be extra gate money from having the uglies visit your ground four times (minimum) a season or selling newspapers, pay per view TV packages etc. So you are therefore up against it right away if you want a return to a two division set up. Those against idea this never tire of talking about meaningless fixtures, strangely they never seem to mention that playing in a larger league would be less repetitive therefore less boring, and therefore might actually attract more fans, nor do they point out that meaningless games allow teams to blood youngsters, something that rarely happens under the current system . I suppose it would be possible to do this without the Premiership. Bring in a couple of team and then split the three leagues into two leagues of 16 thus giving 30 games a season. I wonder how that kind of suggestion would go down? Obviously something needs to be done given the current situation but I have absolutely no faith in the SPFL to come up with an acceptable solution.

The injustice of 2004 pales in comparison to this proposal. Thistle will be seen as a soft touch and easier to disadvantage than Hearts, Celtic, Dundee Utd. I'd almost rather watch Thistle play non-league in Ruchill Park than accept this...

We made top 6 only 3 years ago, so we haven't been rank for going on 4 years. We have been poor, but we have a game in hand and a win would take us out of bottom place. A number of fans on this forum have rightly so slagged of players for giving up during a game, but they think we should just give up and accept this, really.

Any rational analysis will tell you the top division is the least complicated. But in the completely ****** up world of the Scottish Football authorities there are only two teams that matter, this is what makes it complicated for them. Getting royally shafted once again.

There are plenty of clubs I could see voting against this most notably those in the playoffs places. Dundee Utd and Cove Rangers pretty much have their leagues wrapped up but Falkirk are only a point behind Raith Rovers and Airdrie are not too far away either. ICT, Dundee, Ayr and Dunfermline all fighting it out in the playoff places, you could even throw Morton and Arbroath in there as being relatively safe from relegation and still with a chance of a playoff spot. As mentioned above Falkirk and Airdrie are still in the title hunt with Montrose and East fife are not that far behind with no threat of relegation. Edinburgh city, Elgin and Cowdenbeath are in the playoff spots in league Two with Queens Park only a point behind 4th. Plus Queens Park are been signing some good players since turning pro so I would think they believe they have a good chance of promotion. The only teams this benefits are the league leaders and the teams in threat of relegation but not sitting 10th. I suppose it just depends how these other teams treat the situation and may just side with it due to it been extreme circumstances. Also are they happy to relegate Thistle but what happens to Hearts also has a bearing on this. Can have one rule for one and another for someone else (I realised this is the SPFL and thats generally what they do). I hope thistle fight this to the ends of the earth, we might deserve to go down but frankly that shouldn't matter as we still have a quarter of the season to play. Thistle have also played Dundee Utd 4 times this year while QoS have only played them three times. I know this is sounding petty but taking an average points per game or whatever they are trying to do is not comparing apples with apples.

Question for the 'we deserve to go down' brigade on this board, how would you feel if were 2nd and only a few points off the top? Would you be happy to be denied the chance of a promotion play off or even the chance to win the league (Falkirk is a perfect example of this) It's a farce but we've been through farce before in 2004. The leagues should be completed or else voided. Our league campaign consists of 36 of games, not 75% of that with some teams playing less games than others.

Following today’s SPFL announcement, Partick Thistle FC will simply not accept this proposal as it stands. We believe that the proposal requires significantly more discussion, scrutiny and debate before any vote can be taken. We are now engaging with others to amend the proposal to identify a fairer and more equitable solution to address a number of inequalities it throws up. At an unprecedented time for football, we believe that it doesn’t meet the basic principle that no club should be left worse off by this important decision. It also seems to link acceptance of the proposal before payments can be made to hard-pressed clubs but, in our opinion, the two things do not need to be linked. Money to clubs is a priority, the proposal could be debated in slower time.

...they have. We have been rank rotten for going on four years. Calamity in the boardroom. An ousted chairman returns. Board members who contribute nothing. Club legends treated like utter dirt. Rumours of financial mismanagement from official sources at the club. And the response from the fans? ...Crickets. A wee mumble and grumble. But unlike other sides, was there protests outside the stadium? No. Protests inside the stadium? No. Coordinated action from the fans? Erm, no. So lets not kid ourselves that either the fans or the board will mount some caviller effort to overturn any decision made by the SPFL and its associated clubs. Sorry. Might sound harsh. But that's the simple fact of the matter.

We won't sue we are weak. We will do the usual and release a strongly worded statement stating we shall not lie down and will fight it all the way and then do what we are told! Jackie will then put some shit spin on it saying because we are Partick Thistle Family Club that we will go up and down the country to far off outposts and seasides telling everyone about the gospel of Miss Low and how great she is.

So who do we sue exactly? The 75% of clubs who will have voted for this if it goes through? We don't like the outcome of a vote your honour, so please can you overturn it?

We would completely deserve to be relegated. Rank-rotten all year, and if it wasn't automatically it would be in the play-offs. Be done with it.

We wouldn't win. Courts don't like to get involved in sporting disputes and if 75% of clubs support this as the right thing to do then we don't have much ground for complaint. Although unfair, the average points can be justified as allowing for different number of games played

I suspect that would be a complete waste of money to mount a challenge.

Why is it lazy ? It is less than 12 months ago that we beat QotS and in doing so avoided back to back relegations.

I'm with GRE on this. Reconstruction, even for one season, is clearly the most appropriate way forward, but unless the TV broadcasters are guaranteed 4 ugly sisters games, that option will be dead in the water. We do have to look at the bigger picture. What matters at the end of the day is the survival of football clubs across the country, and SPFL need to have that as the primary aim of whatever plan they propose. If we end up in League 1, it won't be because we've been fitted up by the SPFL, or because we were denied a penalty against QOS, but because, with few exceptions, we have under-performed since the first game of the season against Alloa.

Obviously Chic and is that Davis of St Mirren? Gerry Collins in the background! I assume this is the Scottish Cup tie that ended in a draw at Firhill with the Jags running out 3-1 winners at Love Street in the replay. A fantastic performance that night and as I recall a Gerry McCoy diving header for the Jags third!

Ahem Barney, it's "dans la merde."

Mea Culpa.