potty trained

At home, yes. We are quite a few of these things.

No that wasn't the point you were making at all. You started off by replying to me effectively criticising the manager for dropping Erskine. Now that it's been pointed out to you that he was struggling with an injury you're now criticising the manager for taking steps to try and resolve our poor away form. You do see how that looks don't you? A much better look would have been to hold your hands up and acknowledge you weren't aware he was injured, when you made your original point.

My thoughts are that we went 5 at the back because we get beat away from home. Be that through individual errors or collective mistakes. An quick way to resolve that would be to put an extra body in there for 90 minutes. Get away with a clean sheet and try and increase the confidence that's been erroded away. My pedantry was based on the fact that there's a quite obvious amount of scapegoating going on regards Elliott. It's actually disgusting to read at times. Some of the crap getting posted on here is getting ridiculous, fueled by sweeping generalisations and complete nonsense. Some folk seem to have an agenda or a lack of understanding of the game. Which is worrying, when they pay money to watch it.

You originally said that was why we went to a back three. You didn't say... one of the reasons we went to a back three was.

No thanks. Done enough in my time. No time now.

So are you saying he should have started? I'm not sure what the point is you're making.

And he was shite when he came off the bench.

Yup, disappointing that no fans have stepped up to form a Testimonial Comitee.

You tell me how many assists Lawless had that season. Because 3 league goals for an attacking midfielder/winger is a stinking return. You don't think Keown in his first season where we finished top 6 was a step up from Muirhead? You think the fans got it wrong naming Barton Player of the Year? Can you tell me how you define "building a team" and how it differs from working with what you have and filling the gaps?

"Safe to say our improvement in the Premiership was in a very big way down to the improvement of players already at the club. Cerny aside I don’t think we can attribute much of it to Archibald’s recruitment." "Doolan, Elliott, Lindsay, Welsh, Bannigan, Lawless, Scully. With Erskine having left then returned" so, if it wasn't down to the recruitment. Was it down to lawless and his massive goal haul of 3? Maybe Banzo and his total appearances of zero? Maybe it's down to Scully?

I didn't say they were calling for him to be sacked "because" we lost a game.

So be it. That's life. We've stuck with him. So maybe some of our fans should stop acting like spoiled children and calling for him to be sacked if we lose a game. Then fckin disappear when we win one. It's not a good look.

Mate you need to move on and stop comparing us to better teams in a higher league. We're a Championship team again. Suck it up.

On reflection, im still trying to work out what that formation was. 5 at the back. Fine, I get that and agree with why we did it. But, we then set up with two defensive midfielders. Ok, really cautious! That 8 players behind the ball who aren't going to be involved in a counter attack. Unless Elliott and Penrice were the counter attackers? I saw very little evidence of that. In fact I don't think both went up the park at the same time, once, during the game to stretch Dunfermline. If Elliott went up, Keown shuffled across to right back. If Penrice went up, McGinty shuffled over to left back. Nothing new, a tactic Archie had used before, but against far better opposition. When you play 3 at the back, more often than not, one of them is a ball player, an Irons or a Patterson. We don't have that. So to start every move, Banzo and Slater had to drop into the three to pick up the ball. Exactly the same tactic we use in a back 4. So straight away we were using a similar style, but eliminitating one forward passing option, because a jersey was being used in a back 3. Added to that, I have never seen us want to get the ball the fck away from our goals so quickly. Practically every clearance was a hoof. And the majority were miss hit. High into the sky, coming down 20 yards up the park. To a degree it worked. In no small part due to the fact that Dunfermline are absolute manure! 11 or 12 corners we gave them. Did one find a Pars player? I don't think any did. Where I got pissed off was In front of Banzo and Slater. We weren't playing 3 across the front. Spittal was too deep. He was the link up man. But it wasn't a 5212 because and this is where I get really ****** off. Storey provided absolutely no support for Doolan. Nothing!!! He sat on that fckin touchline playing his usual game in a 4231. My mate described him as a loan wolf. It sums Storey up perfectly. I'd love to know what he was doing out there. What was the game plan. He should have been central. Elliott and Penrice overlapping in tandem with Doolan, Spittal and Storey as their targets. It happened once in the first half. That was it. Elliott overlapped onto a through ball from Spittal. He put in a front post cross but no one attacked the space. We sat and played the ball across a back 5 all night. Dunfermline never closed us down. So why not sacrifice a defender for Erskine at half time and play the ball across a back four, but with an extra option in front of you. We were more interested in battling our own deficiencies, then attacking Dunfermlines. Ironically, Erskine came on and was shite.

Absolute rubbish.

We went to a back 3 because of Elliott? Ok

Have any fans set up a Testimonial Committee, to organise this?

Or nothing went on before it?

How much stick? 1 person having a conversation over 3 or 4 posts. That's hardly any stick. Who he fouled has no relevance. If he'd done the same to someone you like, would you have less of an opinion of him? That says more about you, sadly. As I said, I have no issue with tough tackling. I loved watching Hugh Murray in the middle of the park. Very much on the Roy Keane mould. I called for us to be making moves for Paton during the close season. Again, I haven't said I don't want out players to tackle. So no idea why you assume I think they should just stand back and admire the opposition. Again, no problem having someone who takes the rules to the limit. If you think a snide stamp on someone's ankle that could end their career is taking it to the limit, I'd rather watch a different game.

It's almost like you completely ignored everything I said. Which is a shame.

His last game he did play, im pretty sure the post match comments on here were that he'd had a shite game.

Not denying every fan should have access to the managers comments. And the club provide that via written form, free to read, on the website. What seems to have been raised regularly this season, is that, when we have been beaten, the post match Jagzone video interview should be free to view. No one who has this opinion has been able to suggest why this is the case, how subscribers should be compensated or how much they should be compensated.

I'd rather Thistle players take on Brown the way previous ones have done successfully, like Erskine, or to his credit Edwards. I wouldn't suggest in any way possible that Storer took Brown on, in that game.

Nope, equally I saw John Robertson deliberately stamp on an opposition player. Regardless of the regularity, doesn't mean I should be any more accepting of it.

Great news for him and the club. At least it's given something for the trolls to post about, must have been a tough weekend for them, having to sit through the text commentary as we recorded another win.