Semi Nurainen

Thoroughly describes the mentality of the TfE Bowling Club adherents - and completely justifies continuing scepticism.

That makes a bit more sense now.

He and the other poster deliberately and ridiculously misinterpreted what I wrote and continue to misinterpret not to mention refusing to answer poins), when the meaning was clear, in order to make a cheap debating point; 'wassock'; was getting off lightly. More Boris Johnson, really.

I'll ignore you post then.

I agree. That's not TfE. I'm not selling a single thing. Try and reply without mentioning you know who.

Come on, these guys are entitled to their money back. Page 193 - still no positive case for TfE.

No it's pretty much the same moral question. But well said, so will I - TfE or consortium.

After 193 pages you cracked it! Yes that's the meaning of lesser of two evils. Sign? Not with TfE.

First, you have to believe that somehow or other you will be able to grow young talent in sufficient quantity and quality to make the whole operation - i.e. buying the club, appointing coaching and managerial talent to bring on the youngsters, selling the players, and finally selling the club for more than you bought it for (or even just balance the books)- worthwhile.

Can you point to the bit where I said 'transformational' or 'great track record'.

By selling on young players - stop being disingenuous. If you are as anti-tory as you claim to be you may have noticed that nowadays senior professional football is pretty much all about money. That's why we have supporters getting up at 7 in the morning to go to a 1200 o'clock kick-off at the other end of the country or getting home at 2 in the morning after 1700 kick off on a Sunday evening ; that's why we've got the farce of Friday night football. That's why we have things like Jagzone and hospitality, and pay £2.50 for a pie; it's what we've all signed up to whether we want to believe it or not. If you don't like the fact that money drives the game you need to go and watch Pollok or Maryhill Juniors where they do it for love.

In that case they're 'no worse off', phrase which has been recently manufactured.

The consortium had no time to turn the club round before they were relegated - they bought a club that was in descent. That would be like blaming Bunter for our 5-0 defeat by Celtic, but don't let facts get in the way. The club were promoted at first attempt in their first full season under the consortium.

You're the one that's trumpeting, and continuing to make up lies about people. If you think I am even close to being a tory , it shows how appallingly, alarmingly wide of the mark your judgement is. The main criticism of the consortium has been that they will sell on young players. I keep asking, where does TfE says they won't sell on young players, I keep getting no answer.

Not disagreeing with that. I would point out that, for me, there is an equal absence of evidence that TfE will pump millions in/make us more competitive. The experience of the Peoples Trusts of Judea don't inspire me either.