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  1. Hi, 

    Just a quick message. 

    Firstly, I hope everyone is okay after Sunday's events. 

    Shankly was wrong, football isn't more important than life and death. It is still a big part of all our lives though and  I can't have been the only person to have been left absolutely drained by what happened on Sunday. 

    Personally I can't face reading about Sunday, no interest in reviewing all the VAR calls (I've seen the Doc penalty incident - how that isn't a pen I don't know - but none of the others) and certainly won't be watching the highlights. It took me over 10 years to watch highlights from that game at Tannadice. I imagine it will be at least that again before I watch anything from Sunday. It happened. It hurts, but it can't be changed. 

    I'll likely watch the Scotland games later this month but those aside I'm going to try and forget about football for the rest of the month. 

    That means I won't be checking on here, or reading other football forums, and won't be answering any messages or dealing with what little Admin this site generally requires. 

    If you message about anything then and don't receive a response It's nothing personal. I'm just gubbed and need a rest from football for a bit. Please play nice, I know you will, and see you all in July. 

    OTIG

     

     

  2. 1 hour ago, Paddy Thistle said:

    This is actually a message to Admin. I know of a friend who previously was able to sign on to the site and make posts. Due to laptop problems he lost that ability.

    He has tried to sign up as a new member but is hit with messages such as -"Error for site owner - invalid domain for site key" "You did not pass the security check - Please try again" - "Your answer to the challenge question was not valid -Please try again".

    He has e-mailed Admin. on 3 or 4 occasions and receives an instant computer generated acknowledgment, but nothing thereafter.

    He is not a Facebook orTwitter user.

    Maybe there are others in the same boat?

    Update

    I don't see anyone waiting for approval other than some cleatly dodgy ones dating back to 2020. 

    What was there original username. I might be able to do something with that. 

    PM if you prefer. I'm not working today so there is a chance it will be actioned. 

  3. 1 hour ago, Paddy Thistle said:

    This is actually a message to Admin. I know of a friend who previously was able to sign on to the site and make posts. Due to laptop problems he lost that ability.

    He has tried to sign up as a new member but is hit with messages such as -"Error for site owner - invalid domain for site key" "You did not pass the security check - Please try again" - "Your answer to the challenge question was not valid -Please try again".

    He has e-mailed Admin. on 3 or 4 occasions and receives an instant computer generated acknowledgment, but nothing thereafter.

    He is not a Facebook orTwitter user.

    Maybe there are others in the same boat?

    The bit in bold is strange. I've not received any emails or aware of a generic acknowledgement. I'll look into that. 

    Last time I checked there wasn't any new members awaiting approval. I'll double check that too. There's no email sent to me when there is which is problematic. It relies on me doing peoridic checks which given my lack of attention isn't ideal. 

     

  4. 2 hours ago, lady-isobel-barnett said:

    Have read report re meeting with The PTFC Trust. Whilst it could be construed that the Trust have made concessions they are in my mind kinda meaningless with the second red line (majority of trustees  be democratically elected by May 2023) being rejected. I'd give the notion that in refusal the Trust are adopting a delay and you'll go away approach. 

    I sincerely wish TJF to continue and hope that the already impressive membership numbers increase.  We are far more than just a pressure group. The TJF are democratically elected and represent a huge chunk of OUR Club's adult fanbase.

    The PTFC Trust remind me of parents who won't allow their kids to play with their birthday presents from their uncle till they're older. Secretly hoping that come the day the kids will have lost all interest in their presents. I've great faith that TJF will not allow proper fan ownership to be swept aside in such a manner.

    LLB, I've edited your post to replace Jags Trust with PTFC Trust. 

  5. With the Club's 150th anniversary* coming up in the not too distant future an updated Official History would be ideal to coincide with that. 

    *But is 2025 rather than 2026? Contempary sources of the time list the Club's formation as December 1875. 

    Edit to add: Didn't mean to post this as Admin. Ach, well no foul no harm

     

  6. 40 minutes ago, denismcquadeno.eleven said:

    Hi Doo

    Keyboard Warrior here, 

    Fan ownership down the Swanee, but you’re not bothered about that, you’re STILL prioritising your dislike and nasty comments against me. As you’ve done since I first came on this site.

    I am the villain on here folks! Not JL, not the PTFC board, not the ‘Five Marionettes’ no…I was the bad guy all along! It was me who spiked fan ownership, spoiled this site for the chilled-out brigade, caused headaches  and the moderator to think about resigning, all down to me! It was me who caused TJF to fail to get those shares, and I might even have a hand in Thistle’s next defeat too. Be afraid be very afraid! And have a lump of garlic handy!

    KW

    Well at least you can admit it! Where were you in Dallas November '63? 

    On a serious note. You can occasionally let things slide. And @Lambies Lost Doo , to save my DMs from unwanted attention, not sure what your contribution added to the debate during an important time. Let's try and keep things on topic. 

    Edited to Add: I've given a thread another tidy up to try and keep it on topic. I'd prefer to not have to continue to do so. 

  7. These are important times on and, perhaps particuarly, off the pitch for our Club. 

    It is vitally important for Thistle fans to have dialogue with each other to discuss these issues. 

    This forum is just one place where these discussions can take place, and I would hope that no matter what my own particular thoughts might be  they aren't reflected in how the site is moderated. There has certainly been no attempt to stiffle debate or to try and push that debate in any particular direction. 

    It was some years ago now that I was approached to take over 'ownership' of this forum largely because nobody else approached to do so wanted to take it on. 

    Rather than see the forum shut, I agreed. 

    I'm now at the stage where I have no desire to continue with it. 

    Previously it took next to no moderation. Days and weeks would go by where I wouldn't even look at it unless notification of an issue hit my inbox. 

    That started to change recently and it's starting to take up time that I don't really have. 

    Given the importance of current events I really don't want to shut the forum down. It's nowhere as busy as it once was, but it is a still a good source for debate and for the sharing of information. We need as much communication as possible, now more than ever. 

    With that in mind I'm hoping someone else can take it on. 

    I'm not setting any deadlines or a closure date. I really hope that can be avoided. But if anyone is interested in taking it on could you ping me a message and I'll review where we are at the end of the current month. 

    Thanks for taking the time to read this and apologies for all the nonsense in the last couple of days. 

     

     

  8. Can I ask that when commenting on the myriad of Fans' organisations/trusts activities that the correct terminology is used so as to avoid confusion. 

    On the basis of consistency I would suggest the following: 

     Partick Thistle Trust: PTFC Trust

    The Jags Foundation: TJF

    The Jags Trust: JT

    Just to add further confusion in addition to the above there also exists The Partick Thistle Charitable Trust which as the name suggests is a Charitable organisation and in no way linked to the above. 

  9. Just on a wee housekeeping note can I request, as difficult as it is sometimes to keep up, that we use the correct terminology when referencing the various fans' organisations/trusts. 

    Namely (in alphabetical order lest there is thought to be bias): 

    Partick Thistle Trust (PTFC Trust)

    The Jags Foundation (TJF)

    The Jags Trust (JT)

    Thanks

  10. 10 minutes ago, denismcquadeno.eleven said:

    Well, back and forth…is really what taking  part on a site like this is all about. And, I never said you were in cahoots with “all” on here. I said, that you wrote your first comment, another guy immediately put up the smiling face. Then the next post you made, the same guy just happened to be on the spot, to quickly put up the same smiling face. But, putting all that aside perhaps, if you engage with others, talking about WHAT they’re saying, whether you approve of it or not, is better than making comments about where they’re putting it. After all, how many other posters on here, have you pointed out they should be posting elsewhere? And, how many others, have you pointed out you’re the only one commenting on their posts, implying no-one else is interested. I think what you’ve been doing is currently called, ‘gaslighting’-look it up if you’re still in the dark (pun intended!)

    Please Stop. 

    Signed - Frustrated of Admin!

  11. 1 hour ago, Woodstock Jag said:

    "Various football forums" - Two.

    But also "Given that"... then... what, exactly?

    The context for his behaviour was in the original video, including the 10 or so seconds before Foster even reached the touchline, let alone the terraces. It shows that Foster and other players were facing generic abuse and criticism. Things like "you're a ******* embarrassment" "you don't deserve the playoffs" and "you're ******* terrible". All pretty "tame" fare, whether or not it is to your taste.

    There was no evidence to support any suggestion of sectarian language or abuse (or indeed anything specific or untoward targeted at Foster or his family). Indeed the remark that prompts Foster to look up and go mental, as the videos (plural) show, was "get a grip you, you ******* idiot".

    Any sectarianism is inappropriate and unacceptable. In this case, however, it doesn't provide "context" to Foster's actions. Because there is no evidence that it happened before he acted.

    Except I explicitly condemned the second video (just not on here, elsewhere) as, and I quote, "sectarian guff" and "bang out of order". I don't need to set out my views that sectarianism is wrong in every single setting. This isn't Virtue Signal Thursday.

    Edit to add: in fact it turns out I even did condemn the sectarianism on here when reports of it first surfaced along with the video in which it is documented as "sectarian nonsense" which was "inexcusable". It was my first post about the incident after the second half video entered the public domain! Hardly "until pressed"!

    We can condemn it without trying to twist it into an excuse for Foster's frankly embarrassing behaviour.

    I did not "erroneously claim" that he was part of the women's team's coaching staff. I asked whether he was, and pointed out that as a senior player who holds, or has held, additional responsibilities at the Club ought to be expected to behave with more restraint. You helpfully pointed out that he had actually stepped down from that role last season and I thanked you for clarifying.

    You're frankly coming across as a little bit weird here.

    It really isn't. The videos (plural) in question cover from when Foster is still on the pitch right through to when he turns and decides to pick a fight with a fan. That is all the context you need to know that it is implausible that sectarian abuse triggered the response. The videos clearly show that Foster reacts to the remark "get a grip you, you ******* idiot".

    Your lengthy reply, which focuses more on 'when' what was said rather than the nature of what was said, doesn't really convince me that you don't consider Foster's behaviour to be the more important issue here. 

    He admits himself he was wrong to react and, of course, he was. 

    I'm more concerned at the fact that sectarian abuse was hurled in his direction than how he behaved. 

    And just as an aside to end my own involvement in this debate, the absence of video evidence of sectarian abuse isn't proof that there wasn't any or conclusive proof of when it was delivered. It would be a false premise to suggest otherwise. 

  12. 8 minutes ago, Woodstock Jag said:

    Who thinks this?

    The question of when is relevant to the justification he is offering for his actions (that he was provoked).

    Any sane person takes it for granted that the sectarian abuse that was uttered was completely unacceptable and should be punished.

    It's relevant to whether the way he conducted himself is understandable and excusable.

    No one on here seems to be disagreeing with this sentiment. At all.

    It is possible to address two issues at the same time.

    Given that you were quick to rush to various football forums to post the video complete with a now much repeated 'amusing' comment (while the game was still in progress I believe) without any attempt to try and establish some kind of context for Foster's behaviour, have made next to no comment on the personal abuse that Foster received, other than to describe it as being the "tame end of offensive" , have made no more than passing reference until pressed to the sectarian abuse, have made reference to Foster being some kind of ambassador, erroneously claiming that he was part of the Women's Team coaching staff, it's not an illogical conclusion to come to that you consider Foster's behaviour as being the primary issue here. 

    It's certainly a more logical conclusion to come to than the assertion that Foster would need to be a time traveller to have heard any sectarian abuse prior to the start of the second half simply because none is audible on a short video. 

  13. Just as I can't understand the need to rush to social media to post these types of video, I can't understand why someone would think the bigger issue is when (not if btw, but when) sectarian abuse was heard, and not the fact that a Thistle fan was hurling sectarian abuse. 

    Of course Foster shouldn't have reacted the way he did but his reaction was a human one, albeit a human failing. Is anyone denying that he was subjected to personal abuse relating to his wife and sectarian abuse? Are we really focusing on what and when he heard?

    The Thistle fan in question (and again there is no question whatsoever that sectarian slurs were shouted at one of our players) should be utterly ashamed of their actions. Ashamed at tarnishing the reputation of Partick Thistle supporters. That is the only issue for me. Anything else is just an attempt at misdirection.  

     

  14. It wasn't to be for us today. We've gone from being flung in at the deep end that is SWPL1 at the last minute, after the season had started incidentally, to going toe to toe against full-time professional Glasgow City in the semi-final of the Scottish Cup in the course of the season. That is a massive achievement. There were contrasting emotions at full-time. Disappointment obviously at losing but also immense pride in our players' efforts. They are a fantastically dedicated group. 

    Of the four teams competing in the semi-finals we've been told that we had the biggest support. I think it would have been in region of several hundred I reckon. Seeing pictures on social media of young supporters posing with the players after the game was just great to see. 

    We're growing as a Club. Our elevation meant that focus had to be primarily on preparing the team on the pitch for the challenge ahead. Off the pitch it has been a real education and positive learning experience. What we need to do is identify where we believe our core support lies and develop that. All this takes time. In 8 years the club has gone from playing in public parks at the lowest rung of the women's game to the top flight. We've received a lot of praise from our peers this season but of course we've got a bit to go yet. 

    The game in Scotland is still growing and developing and unquestionably making mistakes along the way. I'd focus less though on being decades behind other nations and instead focus on the progress that has been made since the 1970s. Then Scotland were the only nation to vote against UEFA's wish that each national association should take control of the women's game in that nation. Scottish football, scottish society as a whole, is still significantly misogynist in nature but that is changing, but we're still in the early stages of the journey. 

     

  15. It's now less than 24 hours until Partick Thistle WFC attempt to become the first Partick Thistle side to contest a Scottish Cup Final in 92 years. 

    If you are swithering of going tomorrow take a watch at this, narrated by former PTWFC player Eilidh Barbour, and swither no more. 

    Kick off at the Falkirk Stadium is 4:30pm and it's just a fiver to get in. 

    You can purchase tickets through the link below. It's unreserved seating but we're suggesting that Thistle fans congregate behind the Thistle dugout. 

    https://falkirkfc.tickethour.co.uk/seatingPlan.html?idProduct=1680

     

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