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  1. In that instance, I suppose we'd have no option but to invoke Clause 12 and cancel players' (and Managers'/Asst Managers' ) contracts, and put the club into hibernation till we were able to play again. Hopefully, we'd survive, when others wouldn't.
  2. I think you're right about lower league clubs being more able to meet social distancing rules. We could probably safely accommodate 2k in Firhill. I think the key issue will be whether the economics of running the league with massively reduced revenue can be made to work, and I think that's very problematic.
  3. Seems like the ugly sisters and Aberdeen are backing temporary reconstruction. I suspect arms are being twisted behind the scenes to support 14-14-14, so an interesting few weeks ahead. Still not confident we'll see any football in the lower leagues next season.
  4. If we sought (and won) a judicial review of the process used by SPFL, it would put SPFL's planning back to square 1. While they might simply re-run the vote, it would give us some short term leverage. However, it would probably turn out to be a hollow victory - particularly if the 2020-21 season is cancelled in the lower leagues, which looks increasingly likely.
  5. I very much doubt we'll get the required support for an independent enquiry. I wonder if a simple vote of no confidence in the Board would have been a better tactic. I think some clubs would have found that easier to support.
  6. They certainly haven't missed and hit the wall! The cracks are beginning to show in the SPFL edifice, but whether it'll make any difference isn't certain.
  7. I don't know how much it would take to keep the club ticking over for a year without football, but 14 players' wages alone would be at least 500k, plus ground staff, plus Chief Exec, Manager etc and we wouldn't see much change out of £1 million. Add in business rates, staff on costs, stadium maintenance etc. etc and I'm guessing you have to be looking in the region of £2million.
  8. The more I read about the management of the pandemic, the less sure I become that we will see any football next next season. Given the massive challenges involved in staging football, and the lack of finance available in the game in Scotland, I think it's quite possible that the lower leagues will be suspended until 2021/22, with available resources channelled towards staging the Premiership next season. Clubs would presumably go into some form of 'hibernation', with no playing staff, and stadia put on a care and maintenance basis. Am I way off the mark here?
  9. If we're honest, we know that reconstruction was never going to happen, so it looks like we'll be playing in League 1 next season - whenever it starts. It'll be into 2021 before football returns to anything approaching normality, and in the meantime, some clubs will undoubtedly go to the wall as they are deprived of the gate revenue. IMO we have to use our resources to make sure that Partick Thistle is still standing as we come out of the virus. Much as I love going to away games, for me that means not attending away games next season, (when we're allowed to) and donating the money saved to our own club to make sure we're not one of the casualties of the carnage facing Scottish football. If some of the clubs who voted to stitch us up are among the casualties, I won't shed any tears.
  10. To be honest, I don't know specifically which clubs are in danger of going under. However, I reckon any club which doesn't have a rich owner with deep pockets, has a high player wage to revenue ratio, has a high number of players on contract after May, is carrying debt or doesn't have significant reserves, has to be vulnerable. That probably includes most SPFL clubs.
  11. We need to recognise that all the reconstruction options are likely to be heavily influenced by the number of clubs that go to the wall over the next few months. That in itself will probably keep us in the second tier, whatever shape that division takes. I think it's inconceivable that we will still have 42 clubs to participate next season - whenever it starts- unless we are able to bring in a large number from the pyramid. I'd be in favour of 3 x14s - as the 2nd Division clubs are arguing for, as a temporary expedient, if we can muster 42 clubs.
  12. All fair points, but we agree that legal action doesn't, of itself, protect our staff, players and suppliers, so there's no easy solution to this. It's true that clubs we've supported in the past have shafted us, but screwing their workers doesn't do anything to help us, or our people. Surely it's about how we now use our collective resources to look after our club and our people. That's why I'll * buy my season ticket * contribute to the Centenary Fund * subscribe to Jagzone (even though the quality is shite) * give what I can to Help the Jags * not give a penny to clubs who have participated in this stitch up.
  13. All my instincts say take legal action, as I think a judicial review of the process used by SPFL might well succeed. However, it would be a hollow victory as they'd simply re-run the process and get the result Celtic want - again ! The vengeful part of me sincerely hopes that some of the clubs who have shafted us go to the wall, but I think it's important that we are not seen to have caused any club to fail by taking legal action and stopping end of season payments. It's no part of what we're about to cause ordinary workers in Dumfries, Stirling, Alloa etc to lose their jobs ! It's clear that football isn't going to be back to 'business as usual' until there is a universally available vaccine, so deprived of gate revenues, some clubs will inevitably go bust next season - whenever it starts and whatever league we end up playing in. I hope some of them meet the fate they richly deserve, and I will personally not contribute a single penny to their income for next season. For me, it's important that we focus all our efforts on helping PTFC survive, and I'm with exiledjag on his suggestions. We need to use the 'red and yellow pound' to protect our own club so, attend home games, boycott away games to Yes voting clubs and give the money to PTFC, support ICT, Falkirk, East Fife and Stranraer where we can, and offer minimal courtesy and hospitality to the Boards of visiting Yes clubs.
  14. All my instincts say take legal action, as I think a judicial review of the process used by SPFL might well succeed. However, it would be a hollow victory as they'd simply re-run the process and get the result Celtic want - again ! The vengeful part of me sincerely hopes that some of the clubs who have shafted us go to the wall, but I think it's important that we are not seen to have caused any club to fail by taking legal action and stopping end of season payments. It's no part of what we're about to cause ordinary workers in Dumfries, Stirling, Alloa etc to lose their jobs ! It's clear that football isn't going to be back to 'business as usual' until there is a universally available vaccine, so deprived of gate revenues, some clubs will inevitably go bust next season - whenever it starts and whatever league we end up playing in. I hope some of them meet the fate they richly deserve, and I will personally not contribute a single penny to their income for next season. For me, it's important that we focus all our efforts on helping PTFC survive, and I'm with exiledjag on his suggestions. We need to use the 'red and yellow pound' to protect our own club so, attend home games, boycott away games to Yes voting clubs and give the money to PTFC, support ICT, Falkirk, East Fife and Stranraer where we can, and offer minimal courtesy and hospitality to the Boards of visiting yes clubs.
  15. The logical reason for getting QC opinion is to inform possible legal action. We should seek interim interdict pending judicial review of the process used by SPFL. Hopefully Hearts and Sevco will join us in that. Re boycotts. It wont be business as usual in football till next year, so clubs are going to go to the wall as gate receipts are massively reduced. We need to make sure we keep PTFC afloat, so away games, with the exception of Falkirk, should be boycotted and our money redirected to supporting our club through donations, Centenary Fund and Jagzone subscriptions. Sod the clubs who were prepared to throw us under the bus.
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