Big Dan Posted September 13, 2014 Report Share Posted September 13, 2014 Was a bit odd I thought. Seen a number of peeps with yes posters with red n yella stripes . Where did they come from and was there any with No ? There was a Yes stall on Firhill Road which was attracting a lot of attention. A lot of fans were picking up Yes badges and posters etc. The Yes guys were not "thrusting anything into anyones faces". There was no sign of any Better Together presence. I did not see any No campaign badges. There was no "political stuff" going on inside the ground and as the stall was on a public road I do not see any issues with either side campaigning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stillresigned Posted September 13, 2014 Report Share Posted September 13, 2014 I was at the Yes rally in Buchanan Street and had my scarf and top in a plastic bag, simply to avoid this sort of inane complaining. As previously said this is a decision of real import to all who live in Scotland and to moan cos a few didn't see the need to hide their views is I think making a mountain out of a molehill. I could guess that most of my offended Thistle fans are of a Better Together persuasion. Now I'm not for one minute disputing your right to hold your views, but please don't elect sport to exist in a vacuum it doesn't indeed it can't. Finally for the avoidance of any doubt I never heard or saw any examples of so called politicking. Just maybe people on a high after a polItical rally, on a nice day and Thistle won too, so stop moaning FFS. Some yes posters, some yes saltires and some fans with yes t-shirts. Nothing major, but don't need it at games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted September 13, 2014 Report Share Posted September 13, 2014 I think investing in some books on the history of football in Spain, Italy etc will give propel a better perspective Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted September 13, 2014 Report Share Posted September 13, 2014 No place for it at the football can divide an already small support do we need that?? , saw plenty of Jags fans on FB slagging off the sevco fans for making a political statement last night at their game, yet when the boots on the other foot....... Let's all get real here. We don't know what the outcome of the vote will be. There will be a reaction, one way or the other, if only because we are all voters. Irrespective of the outcome, Jags v St Mirren will be the first official crowd after the result is announced. That's a given. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted September 13, 2014 Report Share Posted September 13, 2014 I think investing in some books on the history of football in Spain, Italy etc will give propel a better perspective We're not in Spain or Italy or living 100 years ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted September 13, 2014 Report Share Posted September 13, 2014 Really.....gosh..... 4 years ago I was at a Valencia v Barcelona match and behind the goal at one end were three giant banners and I mean giant from top to bottom.....saying one language one people one Valencia .....if your interested you can find out why .....you can't keep politics out of sport or didn't I see those ex rugby players on yesterday or ex footballers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted September 13, 2014 Report Share Posted September 13, 2014 Really.....gosh..... 4 years ago I was at a Valencia v Barcelona match and behind the goal at one end were three giant banners and I mean giant from top to bottom.....saying one language one people one Valencia .....if your interested you can find out why .....you can't keep politics out of sport or didn't I see those ex rugby players on yesterday or ex footballers? So you have no problem with Rangers or Celtic singing their political songs or waiving their political banners, I see no need for it at the football, politics religion class ethics make us different, being a Jags fan is what unites us, that's what the 90 minutes is about, showing support for the jags nothing else, not show casing your individual political views Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted September 13, 2014 Report Share Posted September 13, 2014 I have never mentioned R and C have I ? Nor did I say I didn't have a problem with the either did I? My point is simply football clubs are created and exist in societies and you can't separate them from the environment In Which they exist Sometimes that will be acceptable to you , sometimes it won't but you can't keep politics out of football Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angry gaz Posted September 13, 2014 Report Share Posted September 13, 2014 Eff yer pope and eff yer Queen is/was a political song Just Saying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggy1967 Posted September 13, 2014 Report Share Posted September 13, 2014 There was a Yes stall on Firhill Road which was attracting a lot of attention. A lot of fans were picking up Yes badges and posters etc. The Yes guys were not "thrusting anything into anyones faces". There was no sign of any Better Together presence. I did not see any No campaign badges. There was no "political stuff" going on inside the ground and as the stall was on a public road I do not see any issues with either side campaigning. Was it something I said ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danish jag Posted September 13, 2014 Report Share Posted September 13, 2014 People are political beings whether they are aware of it or not. What we express and how we express it have and always will be shaped by society around us and politics is an integral part of that. Firhill is not a bubble from the real world, no matter how much some people would like it to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlsarmy Posted September 13, 2014 Report Share Posted September 13, 2014 Eff yer pope and eff yer Queen is/was a political song Just Saying Are the Pope and the Queen politicians ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted September 13, 2014 Report Share Posted September 13, 2014 Are the Pope and the Queen politicians ? Yes they are political figures Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angry gaz Posted September 13, 2014 Report Share Posted September 13, 2014 Are the Pope and the Queen politicians ? The Queen is the Head of State. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingerjag Posted September 13, 2014 Report Share Posted September 13, 2014 john lambie for first minister Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veejag Posted September 13, 2014 Report Share Posted September 13, 2014 What a fantastic forum this is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aberdeenjag Posted September 13, 2014 Report Share Posted September 13, 2014 I saw a guy in the JHS with a Union Jack on his T shirt......it didn't bother me, I picked up Yes badges at a stall in Firhill Road and passed them out to guys I sit beside....no dramas....they wanted them...if they didn't, they would have told me and we would maybe have engaged in a bit of a debate.....good natured debate amongst friends. This referendum is the biggest thing to hit Scotland possibly in hundreds of years....it's a big deal....people will talk about it and demonstrate their feelings, no question, and it is right that we do so. Whatever the outcome, I will be at Firhill on Friday cheering our team. Football cannot be fully divorced from politics...anyone sung Flower of Scotland at an england match?? Of course we have. I have some of my family that plan to vote no despite my attempts to change them....it won't make them any less family after the vote. Having said that.....mon the Jags....and vote yes! We are Thistle! 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackpool Jags Posted September 13, 2014 Report Share Posted September 13, 2014 Accommodation for mature, open-minded, well-intentioned democratic debate in and around Firhill? Of course. Accommodation for any manifest form of reptilian prejudice or bigotry within 8 light years of Firhill? Not in a million years. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potty trained Posted September 13, 2014 Report Share Posted September 13, 2014 (edited) Looking forward to the St Mirren & Thistle fans joining in a chorus of Flower Of Scotland, on Friday. Edited September 14, 2014 by potty trained Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Nixon Posted September 13, 2014 Report Share Posted September 13, 2014 Firhill welcomes all reptiles - snakes, crocodiles, turtles, even skinks. We could do with the extra attendance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlsarmy Posted September 13, 2014 Report Share Posted September 13, 2014 Eff yer pope and eff yer Queen is/was a political song Just Saying Thought our song when we were allowed to sing it , was more a kickback against the the bigoted Old Firm fans, although I do agree there is a fine line between religion and politics . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metz Posted September 13, 2014 Report Share Posted September 13, 2014 So you have no problem with Rangers or Celtic singing their political songs or waiving their political banners, I see no need for it at the football, politics religion class ethics make us different, being a Jags fan is what unites us, that's what the 90 minutes is about, showing support for the jags nothing else, not show casing your individual political views Maybe It is just me but I thought what United and identified us was that we didn't think it was right to discriminate on account of religion, ethics, colour or creed not just an agreement to not talk or demonstrate it nor an unwritten unspoken agreement to crack on in the privacy of our own homes?? I repeat my earlier point a current political debate is not the same as a descriminstory stance, descrimination is an affront to humanity politics is the lifeblood of civilisation and needs to be at theforefront of society. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaggyMad Posted September 13, 2014 Report Share Posted September 13, 2014 (edited) Doesn't matter if it's politics about scottish independence or Irish independence, it should not be brought into football grounds. Small question, what do you think would happen if a few jag fans bring union jacks into Firhill on Friday night, if it's a no vote. There will be punches flying. Which is wrong, some of our fans don't mind saltires with yes on them, but would have a shit fit if union jacks with no on them were to be taken in. So keep it all away from Firhill. Edited September 14, 2014 by JaggyMad 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Devil's Point Posted September 13, 2014 Report Share Posted September 13, 2014 I thought it was utterly abysmal that Yes types hijacked our colours today and stood about (inside and outside the ground) with Red and Yellow placards with 'Yes' written across them. Those responsible should be completely ashamed. If you are incapable of keeping your bitter, and foolish, views away from Firhill, at least don't you dare put my clubs colours against them. You are a disgrace and I hope you get tanked on Friday morning. None of you would ever be welcome back at Firhill if it was up to me. Oh dear, will there be tears......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thistletilladie Posted September 14, 2014 Report Share Posted September 14, 2014 This is a none issue. Just close the thread before there is tears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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