The Sunnylaw Jag Posted December 15, 2014 Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 22 months on and I couldn't care less without him leaving there'd be no Archie in charge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cup Posted December 15, 2014 Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 Speaking of our ex-club captain, did anyone see him spit on the Aberdeen player (Hayes I think) on Saturday's game. Classic Paton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda-jag Posted December 15, 2014 Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 talking of mr paton, whatever happened to his court appearance? wasn't it supposed to be 27th november, but never seen or heard anything about it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian_mac Posted December 15, 2014 Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 I think when the compo situation surfaced it gave a lot of people a good excuse to have a right go at him, as we couldn't really slate him for taking a bigger job with a bigger salary. That said, the compo thing was very poorly handled by DU and Jackie himself. A previous poster who said "we don't know what happened" - I'm pretty sure it's common knowledge what happened. When he actually put a claim in for his bonus to muddy the waters, that was the real low point. I think it's important to remember that his first season with us was for the most part very poor. The performances in the cup competitions were some of the worst I've ever seen as a Thistle fan - and the results certainly support that view. Knocked out of the League Cup by 3rd division opposition at Firhill. Scraping a draw against a junior team and then dropping out to a QOS team who were rock bottom of the 1st division at the time. Towards the end of that season you could see that the team was starting to really improve, but it was still a very forgettable season on the whole. So bearing all that in mind, and the loyalty shown to him by the club, I think we are entitled to feel a little aggrieved at the way he's treated the club since he left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian_mac Posted December 15, 2014 Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 McColl arrived at Firhill proclaiming he had a 3 year plan to get us into the premier league, after 5 seasons we were still mid table mediocrity (going nowhere). At least get your facts right. McCall wasn't even in charge for 4 full seasons, let alone 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian_mac Posted December 15, 2014 Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 Moulded the team that won the league, built a winning spirit throughout the club and brought an attacking style of football. Archie got the credit for crossing the line but to suggest that Archie would have been able to build a team capable of winning is just stupid. McNamara could get the best out of players, take Bannigan as an example, he hasn’t played the same since Jackie left and to all intents and purposes his career is finished. McNamara was a sad loss just a pity that Archie never got enough time to pick up some real management tips. Jeezo, I'm all for a good wind up, but you have to make it a bit less blatant than that Sir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jag Posted December 15, 2014 Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 I remember I was on holiday when I heard that Pressley was favourite and I thought Jackie was staying, I was absolutely gutted the next day when I heard Jackie was off. I remember just thinking that was all chances of winning the league over and was bloody raging! That 1st half of the season was the best football I've seen us play since I started goin in 1992. I can't blame him for leaving or taking Paton and Erskine, that's just what happens.Nobody really knows what happened with all the contract stuff so I wasn't one of the eejits booing or shouting 'scum scum scum'at him on the first day of the season. Pressley was offered the job but refused when Dundee United told them that they would be fighting the £100k compensation payment due to Falkirk for release from his rolling contract. McNamara was told the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jag Posted December 15, 2014 Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 McColl arrived at Firhill proclaiming he had a 3 year plan to get us into the premier league, after 5 seasons we were still mid table mediocrity (going nowhere). I seem to recall it being a five year plan and don't think McCall was there that long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted December 15, 2014 Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 I seem to recall it being a five year plan and don't think McCall was there that long. To be fair we were probably promoted about five years after he announced his five year plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted December 15, 2014 Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 I think when the compo situation surfaced it gave a lot of people a good excuse to have a right go at him, as we couldn't really slate him for taking a bigger job with a bigger salary. That said, the compo thing was very poorly handled by DU and Jackie himself. A previous poster who said "we don't know what happened" - I'm pretty sure it's common knowledge what happened. When he actually put a claim in for his bonus to muddy the waters, that was the real low point. I think it's important to remember that his first season with us was for the most part very poor. The performances in the cup competitions were some of the worst I've ever seen as a Thistle fan - and the results certainly support that view. Knocked out of the League Cup by 3rd division opposition at Firhill. Scraping a draw against a junior team and then dropping out to a QOS team who were rock bottom of the 1st division at the time. Towards the end of that season you could see that the team was starting to really improve, but it was still a very forgettable season on the whole. So bearing all that in mind, and the loyalty shown to him by the club, I think we are entitled to feel a little aggrieved at the way he's treated the club since he left. By no means an exact science but if you want to pick on a turning point I'd plump with little doubt for mid March 2012 and the 5-0 humping we gave QoS at Palmerston. Everything clicked that day and not in a way you'd put down to being just a one off. Sean Welsh (on loan at the time) was immense that afternoon. I'd compare his subsequent full signing to be at least the equivalent of that of ATS the summer before. No matter what you could finally put into McNamara's debit column, and there's plenty, it would be disingenuous to underplay the signings of Sean and ATS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChewinGumMacaroonBaaaz Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 It may be "just what happens". Sadly, c*ntoes happen. F u Jackie and u-sh1ted. We're Partick Thistle. We're better than you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerryHell Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 talking of mr paton, whatever happened to his court appearance? wasn't it supposed to be 27th november, but never seen or heard anything about it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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