potty trained Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 O'Hara's a massive Celtic fan. Edited a fanzine at one point, I'm sure. Also used the three lettered H word to describe Rangers fans on a Celtic forum many years ago. So, borrowed Mhairi's Dad's tie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackpool Jags Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 As a self-confessed LP member in Blackpool, I don't mind saying that since the Bl*ir era we've developed some heinous, self-fellating wee scroats as MPs and councillors. I also have to say, paradoxically, that I was glad to see Labour wiped out in Scotland. Labour deserved nothing m Scotland and got nothing; the hideous spectre of Miliband rushing up to Scotland in an unspeakable threesome with the other two anal cavities is something no Scottish voter is likely to forget anytime soon. Delighted to see a young Thistle fan getting in. By the way, there was nothing in that article that I found off putting in any way. Well done hen. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garscube Road End Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 As a self-confessed LP member in Blackpool, I don't mind saying that since the Bl*ir era we've developed some heinous, self-fellating wee scroats as MPs and councillors. I also have to say, paradoxically, that I was glad to see Labour wiped out in Scotland. Labour deserved nothing m Scotland and got nothing; the hideous spectre of Miliband rushing up to Scotland in an unspeakable threesome with the other two anal cavities is something no Scottish voter is likely to forget anytime soon. Delighted to see a young Thistle fan getting in. By the way, there was nothing in that article that I found off putting in any way. Well done hen. You are a Labour party member, but you are glad that Labour were wiped out in Scotland? What a moron! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angry gaz Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 Thread reset Nos 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda-jag Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 You are a Labour party member, but you are glad that Labour were wiped out in Scotland? What a moron! ever thought of anger management, a chill pill or a break from the internet (or all three) to attempt to curb your online abusive persona? that's twice in as many days you have come out with unwarranted abuse towards fellow thistle supporters. clever not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garscube Road End Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 ever thought of anger management, a chill pill or a break from the internet (or all three) to attempt to curb your online abusive persona? that's twice in as many days you have come out with unwarranted abuse towards fellow thistle supporters. clever not. As 'moron' has two definitions... a) someone who is stupid or foolish and the other which is less than complimentary. It is obvious which definition you have assumed I used! CLEVER NOT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda-jag Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 hey, if you think you're in the right GRE, who am i to argue with you. i'm sure others will draw their own conclusions over your recent (and older) posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Nixon Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 As 'moron' has two definitions... a) someone who is stupid or foolish and the other which is less than complimentary. It is obvious which definition you have assumed I used! CLEVER NOT! Do you think calling people stupid or foolish is complimentary? Are you a moron? Serious question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garscube Road End Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 Do you think calling people stupid or foolish is complimentary? Are you a moron? Serious question. It isn't meant as a compliment! IMO it is foolish and or stupid to say that you are a member of an organisation and then state you are glad it got wiped out! Isn't that akin to saying ' I love Thistle and it hurts like hell when they lose, but I will be glad if they are relegated'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potty trained Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 It isn't meant as a compliment! IMO it is foolish and or stupid to say that you are a member of an organisation and then state you are glad it got wiped out! Isn't that akin to saying ' I love Thistle and it hurts like hell when they lose, but I will be glad if they are relegated'? Yeah, that's exactly what it's like!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meister Jag Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 As a self-confessed LP member in Blackpool, I don't mind saying that since the Bl*ir era we've developed some heinous, self-fellating wee scroats as MPs and councillors. I also have to say, paradoxically, that I was glad to see Labour wiped out in Scotland. Labour deserved nothing m Scotland and got nothing; the hideous spectre of Miliband rushing up to Scotland in an unspeakable threesome with the other two anal cavities is something no Scottish voter is likely to forget anytime soon. Delighted to see a young Thistle fan getting in. By the way, there was nothing in that article that I found off putting in any way. Well done hen. Agree with the above and I say this as another long time LP supporter (Old Labour as opposed to the New Labour "project"). New Labour, I think by their own admission, are having to accept that they are paying the heavy price for failing to protect the class who put them into power in many Scottish constituencies and who they've failed to protect. To be honest, they did very little to halt the excesses of Cameron and his cronies when undertaking their brutal Austerity cuts. (With more to come... ) Will the SNP be able to do any better? Early days and given the Tory majority, it will be hard. We will no doubt return to this in the future. But calling someone a "moron" because they set out their position adds nothing to the debate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 I love Thistle and it hurts like hell when they lose, but I will be glad if they are relegated'? Wow! That's uncanny. Describes me down to a tee. Well two thirds anyway. Btw I never knew the more clinical meaning of the word "moron". Duly noted and filed alongside Hoss Cartwright Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackpool Jags Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 You are a Labour party member, but you are glad that Labour were wiped out in Scotland? What a moron! I was in two minds as to whether to reply to this post due to your unwarranted rudeness and unswerving assumption that I had acted in a stupid way, or harboured incompatible emotions in respect of the election outcomes. Anyway, I'll put it like this: I am a socialist first and a Labour Party member a distant second. The party which I first joined 40 years ago is now a hideous caricature of its former self and I am on the verge of quitting it as a lost cause. The SNP, in my opinion, is far more representative of the working class in Scotland than the Labour Party has been for decades. Labour's atomisation last Thursday was just desserts for their appalling arrogance and self-serving assumption of their divine right to power. They have acted as political bullies for far too long and deserved their battering. Dead simple in my view. Whether that makes any sense to you is your business; I couldn't give a flying ****. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted May 13, 2015 Report Share Posted May 13, 2015 Wow! That's uncanny. Describes me down to a tee. Well two thirds anyway. Btw I never knew the more clinical meaning of the word "moron". Duly noted and filed alongside Hoss Cartwright From Wiki: ["Moron] was once applied to people with an IQ of 51–70, being superior in one degree to "imbecile" (IQ of 26–50) and superior in two degrees to "idiot" (IQ of 0–25)." The term is no longer used by psychologists, as it became increasingly used a a vulgar insult by....well.... choose from any of the above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garscube Road End Posted May 13, 2015 Report Share Posted May 13, 2015 I was in two minds as to whether to reply to this post due to your unwarranted rudeness and unswerving assumption that I had acted in a stupid way, or harboured incompatible emotions in respect of the election outcomes. Anyway, I'll put it like this: I am a socialist first and a Labour Party member a distant second. The party which I first joined 40 years ago is now a hideous caricature of its former self and I am on the verge of quitting it as a lost cause. The SNP, in my opinion, is far more representative of the working class in Scotland than the Labour Party has been for decades. Labour's atomisation last Thursday was just desserts for their appalling arrogance and self-serving assumption of their divine right to power. They have acted as political bullies for far too long and deserved their battering. Dead simple in my view. Whether that makes any sense to you is your business; I couldn't give a flying ****. At least we agree on one thing. Neither of us gives a flying **** what the other thinks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian_mac Posted May 13, 2015 Report Share Posted May 13, 2015 Some embarrassing posts from GRE here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garscube Road End Posted May 13, 2015 Report Share Posted May 13, 2015 Some embarrassing posts from GRE here. Not to worry ian mac. This will be my last post on this site. You will all get peace! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian_mac Posted May 13, 2015 Report Share Posted May 13, 2015 :lol: Martyrdom awaits! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rid Skwerr Posted May 13, 2015 Report Share Posted May 13, 2015 Not to worry ian mac. This will be my last post on this site. You will all get peace! Don't think you will be missed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meister Jag Posted May 13, 2015 Report Share Posted May 13, 2015 The SNP, in my opinion, is far more representative of the working class in Scotland than the Labour Party has been for decades. Labour's atomisation last Thursday was just desserts for their appalling arrogance and self-serving assumption of their divine right to power. They have acted as political bullies for far too long and deserved their battering. The sad thing is you're right and it hurts like f*** to admit it! I don't think that the SNP victory was undeserved (far from it) but a lot of people will now be looking to them for answers and leadership. Who else is there? There is no Scottish Labour, the SSP are but a faction, wee Tommy and Solidarity have disappeared (certainly from my ballot paper) and the CP have been split into several factions (not that they were ever very influential anyway!). So I guess the mass party of the working class is now the SNP. Problem is, if they do nothing - and not saying they won't try to make a difference but it will be hard, who can people turn to? The Tories must be chuckling at their good fortune. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meister Jag Posted May 13, 2015 Report Share Posted May 13, 2015 Not to worry ian mac. This will be my last post on this site. You will all get peace! Don't be silly, stay and enjoy the banter! Seriously, we all have opinions, yours is as valid as the next person's; it's just that, sometimes, some of us might try to suggest otherwise. Pretty sure this is a discussion forum; we discuss things. You are perfectly entitled to disagree with anything that I post (most of it is admittedly ill-informed kack and I've been told this on many occasions!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Scruff Posted May 13, 2015 Report Share Posted May 13, 2015 The sad thing is you're right and it hurts like f*** to admit it! I don't think that the SNP victory was undeserved (far from it) but a lot of people will now be looking to them for answers and leadership. Who else is there? There is no Scottish Labour, the SSP are but a faction, wee Tommy and Solidarity have disappeared (certainly from my ballot paper) and the CP have been split into several factions (not that they were ever very influential anyway!). So I guess the mass party of the working class is now the SNP. Problem is, if they do nothing - and not saying they won't try to make a difference but it will be hard, who can people turn to? The Tories must be chuckling at their good fortune. An interesting political debate, but I'd feel more comfortable having it in the General Forum rather than the football forum (despite my new MP's support for Thistle). But a couple of things. Who is the 'working class' now, and are such concepts still helpful do you think (I know you're old school in this respect). And are the SNP not more pragmatic than dogmatic, (which is why I've voted for them several times in the past despite being a 'no' voter in the referendum)? And in the breathless enthusiasm for our 20 year old local becoming an MP, I'm struggling to see how this is a breath of fresh air. Coming straight out of uni doing politics into parliament seems to me to be the definition of a career politician. Having said that , she is committed and I do wish her well, but still... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashman Posted May 13, 2015 Report Share Posted May 13, 2015 Mhairi is apparently not too keen on maths. Based on the inability of politicians from all parties to provide details of how they will get the figures to add up, she'll fit right in... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meister Jag Posted May 13, 2015 Report Share Posted May 13, 2015 An interesting political debate, but I'd feel more comfortable having it in the General Forum rather than the football forum (despite my new MP's support for Thistle). But a couple of things. Who is the 'working class' now, and are such concepts still helpful do you think (I know you're old school in this respect). And are the SNP not more pragmatic than dogmatic, (which is why I've voted for them several times in the past despite being a 'no' voter in the referendum)? And in the breathless enthusiasm for our 20 year old local becoming an MP, I'm struggling to see how this is a breath of fresh air. Coming straight out of uni doing politics into parliament seems to me to be the definition of a career politician. Having said that , she is committed and I do wish her well, but still... Agree with what you say about a natural home for this thread. I guess the Mods have allowed it to stay on account of the fan connection; I've seen other threads moved (never dumped!). In terms of the working class issue, you have a point, the WC is not as it once was - say 1950s - 1980s and, as I understand it, the Register General's index of social class suggests that the traditional working class has shrunk. Can't remember the percentage but under 20% rings a bell; so maybe as Thatcher wanted, we all aspirant middle-class! (But maybe one for when this thread is re-homed.) Nevertheless, I see where you're coming from and I think you've set up a nice argument that you could easily win (says he slightly side-stepping the issue!) On your point about career politicians being parachuted into constituencies straight from university, I see where you're coming from and guess only time will tell. For example, will she be shackled by the party machine? If so, no fresh air; only suffocation. Finally, I have no doubt that the SNP had some form of selection process when choosing candidates and can only presume that Mhairi was top of their list. So arguably chosen on merit. It will surely take time for her to navigate her way around the bear pit of Westminster politics and in this respect I wish her well. I seriously never thought I'd post at length about the SNP; there's a first time for everything... and yes, in terms of addressing many issues relevant to the people of Scotland, they have shown that they have their finger on the pulse (your point about pragmatism). Yet I still have many reservations about what they can deliver (again, a matter for the other forum!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted May 13, 2015 Report Share Posted May 13, 2015 Hard to see what labour can do now, as a move to make them competitive in England, it would seem, would be a move further from the left wing roots that appeal in Scotland. Would question whether there is a place for a single party, or a need for a separation to allow the Scottish party greater independence on policy. Even with that, it would be a very difficult message to sell during a general election campaign, where the Scottish view will always be largely influenced by the message coming through the UK media. Something has to happen though, because I don't want to see the SNP with a free reign (rein?) in Scotland and no meaningful opposition. And I say that as someone who voted for them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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