Garscube Road End Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 This proves that Joma kits are utterly cheap and hideous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camallain Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 (edited) "The two final designs are below so all you need to do is pick and vote" Does this not infer that other designs were rejected? God alone knows how bad they must have been if the best of the bunch are the two horrific efforts we have been asked to vote on I honestly believe that given the negativity towards the two options both on here and on Facebook that the club should restart the vote with a third option of "None of the Above" Surely the whole point of this exercise is to sell the tops? Therefore they need to listen to the fans and make changes now whilst they still can, otherwise it's going to be a costly mistake! Edited December 19, 2016 by Camallain 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambies Lost Doo Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 I like A. Thumbs up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 Great. Let us vote between two absolutely howling strips. People complained about last season's strip having too much red in it yet they have managed to make the same mistake again. Well done Thistle and TTL, you have made a total arse of it. i had no problem with last years top having so much red as our colours are red and yellow but the 2 offered for choice are very poor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaggy Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 A would be ok with black shorts and some black on the socks. B is far too red. We seem to be stuck with a plain back, or panel for the numbers for some reason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 Where's the draw a **** n balls on the ballot paper option? I can't even see a least worst option between the two. Utter dross. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted December 20, 2016 Report Share Posted December 20, 2016 TTL - Trotters Trading Limited. Won't be buying anything from this company again after the owner was seen openly celebrating Rangers goals in the North Stand a few weeks ago. There's been no apology. Plus the quality of product is shocking. I haven't bought a single new Thistle item since the end of the Greaves deal, partly because the quality has been total cack, the completely nonsensical location of the shop, and now, the owner's disrespect for PTFC and their fans. Somehow I don't see that changing with these two new monstrosities that are being foisted on the supporters without any real consultation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jag Posted December 20, 2016 Report Share Posted December 20, 2016 I haven't seen Facebook but, given the reaction on here and on Twitter, the club and TTL should be having a rethink. There will always be some people that don't like a new kit design but I haven't seen much positivity at all towards these two 'efforts'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted December 20, 2016 Report Share Posted December 20, 2016 I quite like "B". It would have been better if it had been more yellow than red, but I would happily buy "B" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowenBoys Posted December 20, 2016 Report Share Posted December 20, 2016 They should show us images with the Kingsley logo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernsoul Posted December 20, 2016 Report Share Posted December 20, 2016 It was said by Ian Maxwell that there would be three options for us to choose from. I find that strange. Both options are piss poor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fearchar Posted December 20, 2016 Report Share Posted December 20, 2016 It's a slightly different point, but a choice of 2, of which most (shorts and socks) is actually the same is, in reality, a reflection of a top-down attitude of "We know best." This is what board-dependent "fans' representation" looks like. Expect more of the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulo Posted December 20, 2016 Report Share Posted December 20, 2016 https://ptfc.co.uk/ptfc-news/fan-vote-to-decide-201718-home-kit/ Identikit off the shelf strip with our badge on it again. Probably some Spanish team's training top next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazy davie Posted December 20, 2016 Report Share Posted December 20, 2016 What's wrong with everyone ? They're both really good. I went for A, but I'd be happy with either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thistledave78 Posted December 20, 2016 Report Share Posted December 20, 2016 Option B is rank. Option A certainly more Thistle like - would defo be good to see with the Kingsley logo on it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernsoul Posted December 20, 2016 Report Share Posted December 20, 2016 I applaude the Club for giving us the opportunity to choose the kits, that's productive fan engagement. I think it's important to separate that from any frustration of the kits design. You get the impression that our new kit for the season HAS to be a new template Joma kit for the new season. There are plenty of pretty decent template kits from Joma in the past few years which other teams have used. In an ideal world, you'd like to think the Club can source them through our TTL deal. From the outside looking in, that doesn't seem to be the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Passenger Posted December 20, 2016 Report Share Posted December 20, 2016 (edited) What's wrong with everyone ? They're both really good. I went for A, but I'd be happy with either. But you're crazy, Davie. Edited December 20, 2016 by Dark Passenger 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted December 20, 2016 Report Share Posted December 20, 2016 They should show us images with the Kingsley logo. Think the Kingsley deal was only 2 years. He may not be the mascot next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westertonjagfan Posted December 20, 2016 Report Share Posted December 20, 2016 Both are utter howlers. I suspect a Morton might need to be done. 'Ehm, youse have clearly pointed out that the strip is shite so we'll do some more.' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potty trained Posted December 21, 2016 Report Share Posted December 21, 2016 I applaud the Club for giving us the opportunity to choose the kits, that's productive fan engagement. I think it's important to separate that from any frustration of the kits design. You get the impression that our new kit for the season HAS to be a new template Joma kit for the new season. There are plenty of pretty decent template kits from Joma in the past few years which other teams have used. In an ideal world, you'd like to think the Club can source them through our TTL deal. From the outside looking in, that doesn't seem to be the case. Totally agree with your first point, mate. However, were those who attended the Fans Trust meeting not told there would be three options and that before it was put to a vote, a fan would be chosen, to liaise with the Club/TTL? That's absolutely fine if it's a template, practically every strip in the western world is taken from a template and the mock ups i produced on the What If You Had Real Choice thread were all taken from templates. Not all Joma, but templates none the less. There is a negative perception of templates, but if done correctly it can be very effective. There is no rule that says we need to stick to the colour scheme in the catalogue. Take season one for example which allowed us to have black shoulders, valencia had the same top, with blue shoulders. Regardless, I think the "our hands are tied" template thing is a red herring. Last seasons strip with the polka dot fade on the hoops... Didn't see that in any Joma catalogue. Likewise the year before, the candy stripe, again, didn't see that in any Joma catalogue. So that's two years in a row we didn't have a template straight out a catalogue. We renewed the TTL contract for the season ahead. Now, I'm sure the club looked at other options, but I can understand why continuity and having the UK's third biggest football brand are appealing. However, the club must have looked at the new designs in the catalogue for 2017/18, which incidentally isn't yet available to the public and there's no way they looked at it and thought... "yeah, i like this range. There's easily three seasons worth of kits in there." Because the two we have been given are absolute shit. To me it looks as if they committed to something they very quickly regretted and just pointed at what ever was on page 1 and 2. I mean come on, option 2? Option 1 isn't that bad, if a bit of work and thought went into it... or a bit of black went into it. Repeatedly the club and TTL have been told to ditch red shorts. But the laziness/arrogance of this? its the same shorts for both strips? Likewise they have been repeatedly told the fans don't want a big panel on the back for the numbers. The Premiership have added more colours for numbers, so its not like a panel's even needed. There's no excuse for it. For anyone that's not seen them, i threw together 9 mock ups in a couple of hours and put them up on the following thread: http://www.wearethistle.co.uk/forums/index.php?/topic/12050-what-if-you-had-real-choice/page__st__20 Of course, it's very easy for the club to come out of this smelling of roses... You told us the options were shite, and to show we listen, it's back to the drawing board. That's fan engagement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fawlty Towers Posted December 21, 2016 Report Share Posted December 21, 2016 Just to pick up on one point PT made in his very good post. "Totally agree with your first point, mate. However, were those who attended the Fans Trust meeting not told there would be three options and that before it was put to a vote, a fan would be chosen, to liaise with the Club/TTL?" 3 options was mentioned and I would be interested to hear why it is only 2 we are voting on but I don't remember any mention of a fan liasing with the club or supplier before the options were revealed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potty trained Posted December 21, 2016 Report Share Posted December 21, 2016 Thanks FT. Just went back & checked the meeting thread. Could have sworn NS mentioned it in his summary, but apparently not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChewinGumMacaroonBaaaz Posted December 21, 2016 Report Share Posted December 21, 2016 I appreciate the sentiment of giving fans a say, but should this not be behind the pay-wall and one member one vote? One viral smart arse twitter message or post on "Pie n Bovril" from, Timmy Hunsman c/o Section B, Killie Institute for Bully Wee Fuddery... and we could get humped with non-jag consensus opinion of the shite-iest of the two. Anyhoo..... Option - chewingummacaroonbaaaz - Cetic play in hoops ffs!!!!! ... and no black shorts is racist!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerrybritton9 Posted December 21, 2016 Report Share Posted December 21, 2016 I appreciate the sentiment of giving fans a say, but should this not be behind the pay-wall and one member one vote? One viral smart arse twitter message or post on "Pie n Bovril" from, Timmy Hunsman c/o Section B, Killie Institute for Bully Wee Fuddery... and we could get humped with non-jag consensus opinion of the shite-iest of the two. Anyhoo..... Option - chewingummacaroonbaaaz - Cetic play in hoops ffs!!!!! ... and no black shorts is racist!!! That would be an excellent kit I'm disappointed that both sets of kits have the same shorts and socks - we are just choosing the shirt. I have no problem with red shorts and socks but only if the jersey is a lot of yellow This seasons kit looks classy But aren't we glad that we can mix it up and a bit of red yellow and black variety? Just think of our noisy neighbours who MUST wear the same stuff every year for fear of Armageddon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulful_jag Posted December 21, 2016 Report Share Posted December 21, 2016 They're not that bad. Go with black shorts and they'll do ok. In saying that the other thread with the NASL team (Fort Lauderdale Strikers is it?) and most of potty trained's mock-ups show that it's really pretty easy to come up with something better, so not sure why Joma and Thistle keep making it look so difficult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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