Stats Watch 2017-18

[Willjag]

Ronnie Glavin had spells at Centre Forward during those spells too. I distinctly remember a game against Celtic at Firhill when we were defending and Ronnie was the only player up the park. I used to stand at the wall rught on the half way line in the shed and on this particular occassion, I noticed the defenders easing up to play Ronnie offside. I shouted out to him that he was offside, he had a look around and stepped back into an onside position.

[jags on tour]

Paul Mcginn adds to the double letter in a name thingymajig.

[The Jukebox Rebel]

 

09.09.2017 Ross County [a] D1-1 (SPFL Premiership - game 5)

TWO NEW CLUB-RECORDS FOR THE PRICE OF ONE

• Blair Spittal's 22nd minute strike maintains his impressive goals/assists tally, now sitting at 7 in just 6 games.
  
• The injury-prone Tomáš Cerný becomes the first Thistle 'keeper in history to be substituted 4 times in competitive action.
  
• Ryan Scully sets a new club-record by coming on as a substitute 'keeper for the 4th time in competitive action for Thistle.
  
• Thistle concede their 6th penalty in the last 10 League games.
  
• It's now more than 3½ years since Thistle won a penalty away from home in the League.
  
• Thistle and County have now met on 50 occasions in competitive action, and remain deadlocked on 18 wins apiece.
  

 

 

ongoing sequences:

 

• 5 consecutive home League defeats, 7th May 2017 to date. (Longest run since: 5 games; 23rd Aug 2003 to 22nd Nov 2003. Club-record: 10 games; 5th Dec 1908 to 25th Aug 1909.)
  
• 8 away League games without a win, 18th Mar 2017 to date. (Longest run since: 8 games; 29th Sep 2012 to 16th Feb 2013. Club-record: 26 games; 20th Mar 1935 to 29th Aug 1936.)
  
• 11 League games without a win, 15th Apr 2017 to date. (Longest run since: 12 games; 9th May 2015 to 26th Sep 2015. Club-record: 26 games; 28th Nov 1908 to 2nd Oct 1909.)
  
• 32 consecutive competitive appearances for Adam Barton, 28th Dec 2016 to date. (Longest run since: Kris Doolan - 39 games; 15th Oct 2016 to 5th Aug 2017. Club-record: Johnny Jackson - 313 games; 28th Aug 1926 to 25th Mar 1933.)
  
• 65 away League games without a penalty award, 1st Mar 2014 to date. (A new club-record.)
  

 

 

[The Jukebox Rebel]

 

15.09.2017 Rangers [h] D2-2 (SPFL Premiership - game 6)

JAGS WIN A BATTLING POINT ON ARCHIE'S 200TH

• 108 years of tradition are broken as Thistle play their first game at "The Energy Check Stadium at Firhill", so renamed for sponsorship reasons.
  
• Alan Archibald reaches the 200 competitive games milestone at the managerial helm, becoming only the 7th man in history to do so.
  
• 26-year-old Paul McGinn makes his Partick Thistle debut.
  
• Blair Spittal continues with the highly potent start to his Firhill career, his combined goals/assists tally now sitting at 9 in just 7 games.
  
• Chris Erskine's 67th minute dismissal means that that 9 of the last 10 red cards in Thistle's games have went to Jagsmen.
  
• Thistle go 27 competitive games without a win vs. Rangers (11.09.1993 to date), currently our longest winless streak against any side in competitive action.
  
• For the first time in history, Thistle go 23 League games without a win versus Rangers (11.09.1993 to date).
  
• Thistle's hard-earned point brings to an end a brutal H2H run of 14 consecutive League defeats.
  

 

ongoing sequences:

 

 

 

• 6 home League games without a win, 7th May 2017 to date. (Longest run since: 8 games; 27th Aug 2016 to 9th Dec 2016. Club-record: 15 games; 5th Dec 1908 to 11th Dec 1909 & 16th Apr 2013 to 1st Feb 2014.)
  
• 8 away League games without a win, 18th Mar 2017 to date. (Longest run since: 8 games; 29th Sep 2012 to 16th Feb 2013. Club-record: 26 games; 20th Mar 1935 to 29th Aug 1936.)
  
• 12 League games without a win, 15th Apr 2017 to date. (Longest run since: 12 games; 9th May 2015 to 26th Sep 2015. Club-record: 26 games; 28th Nov 1908 to 2nd Oct 1909.)
  
• 12 League games without a clean-sheet, 15th Apr 2017 to date. (Longest run since: 14 games; 1st Feb 2014 to 10th May 2014. Club-record: 46 games; 20th Apr 1908 to 30th Oct 1909.)
  
• 33 consecutive competitive appearances for Adam Barton, 28th Dec 2016 to date. (Longest run since: Kris Doolan - 39 games; 15th Oct 2016 to 5th Aug 2017. Club-record: Johnny Jackson - 313 games; 28th Aug 1926 to 25th Mar 1933.)
  
• 65 away League games without a penalty award, 1st Mar 2014 to date. (A new club-record.)
  

 

[jags on tour]

Since we have been promoted to the Premier, do you have any stats on how many games we have received the first yellow or red card in the game and overall how many games have we ended up with more cards than the other team. It seems like our players get booked all the time then as we seen last night, an opposition player commits the same foul and no card given.

[Fawlty Towers]

The last 2 home games have seen the player on the front cover of the programme score a goal and get a red card - is this a first?

[jagfox]

Don't remember beating Rangers on 11 September 93. Last time was 4 May 1993 I thought?

 

Does Spittal get an assist for last night?

 

 

[stillresigned]

Don't remember beating Rangers on 11 September 93. Last time was 4 May 1993 I thought?

 

Does Spittal get an assist for last night?

Thought that went to Bruno Alves?

[Barney Rubble]

Don't remember beating Rangers on 11 September 93. Last time was 4 May 1993 I thought?

 

Does Spittal get an assist for last night?

 

It was, but TJR's stats start from the next time we play that opponent.

 

Just to cheer you up Jagfox, 11/9/93 was a 1-1 draw at Ibrox. Roddy Grant made a c*** of Gough for our goal, PC Murdoch saved Mark Hateley's penalty, and Duncan Ferguson was so busy celebrating in front of the Copland Road stand that he didn't notice that the goal had been disallowed and the game had restarted.

[The Jukebox Rebel]

Since we have been promoted to the Premier, do you have any stats on how many games we have received the first yellow or red card in the game and overall how many games have we ended up with more cards than the other team. It seems like our players get booked all the time then as we seen last night, an opposition player commits the same foul and no card given.

Yep, I think it seems to feel that way at the moment. In 4 out of the last 7 League games at Firhill, the "big guns" (including Celtic, Aberdeen & Rangers) have left without so much as a single yellow card.

 

I'm not recording yellow card timings, but I can offer an overview of the various disciplinary aspects.

 

Since the last promotion, in 183 competitive games, we've received 325 yellows as opposed to our opponents 250. We've had 23 reds as opposed to our opponents 7. We've won 11 penalties and conceded 27.

 

Running my own arbritary system where a yellow is worth 1 point, a red card 4pts and a penalty 5pts, and inverting those figures into a "for" and "against" style, I find that we've been losing the discipline game by 333pts to 552pts. In other words, a 3 to 5 loss per-game on average.

 

With the same equation on a per-game basis, the "table" reads: played 183, won 50, drew 45 and lost 88.

 

In my personal opinion, in the top-flight environment we're an easy target for controversy-shy referees, most especially in the high profile games.

 

 

 

The last 2 home games have seen the player on the front cover of the programme score a goal and get a red card - is this a first?

After almost 6,500 games there have only been 10 known instances of a Jagsman scoring and being sent off in the same match (there's a fair chance that's a definitive list although we've got an unknown scorer and unknown sending off in an 1894 fixture away to Montrose, so that's potentially another). To get 2-in-a-row at Firhill is amazing, and for them both to be programme cover-stars on each occasion even more so! The heroes and villains from down throughout the years are:

 

John Bowie - 07.04.1917 St Mirren [a] W2-1 (SFL - game 34)

Johnny Ballantyne - 16.02.1924 Ayr United [a] D1-1 (SFL First Division - game 28)

Hugh Brown - 08.11.1947 Motherwell [h] W2-1 (SFL Division A - game 10)

Frank Coulston - 18.08.1971 East Fife [a] W3-2 (League Cup Section 7 - game 2)

Alex O'Hara - 10.10.1979 Morton [a] L1-4 (League Cup 3rd Round, 2nd leg)

Roddy Grant - 29.10.1994 Falkirk [h] L1-2 (SFL Premier Division - game 11)

Rod McDonald - 03.02.1996 Rangers [h] L1-2 (SFL Premier Division - game 25)

Derek Young - 26.12.2006 Dundee [a] L1-3 (SFL First Division - game 19)

Niall Keown - 26.08.2017 Aberdeen [h] L3-4 (SPFL Premiership - game 4)

Chris Erskine - 15.09.2017 Rangers [h] D2-2 (SPFL Premiership - game 6)

 

 

 

Don't remember beating Rangers on 11 September 93. Last time was 4 May 1993 I thought?

4th May, 1993, proper scenes. I was, quite literally, dancing on a crush barrier up at the back at the fence, H*n-goading with youthful zeal. Foxy, I passed your complaint to my customer services department (thanks Barney!) who have rejected it on the grounds that any given winless run starts from the first game we fail to win which, in this case, was September '93. Sorry about that.

 

 

 

Does Spittal get an assist for last night?

What is this, the Blair Watch trials?

 

Edited September 18, 2017 by The Jukebox Rebel

[scotty]

The last 2 home games have seen the player on the front cover of the programme score a goal and get a red card - is this a first?

I see the program editors are not tempting fate and have put Miles Storey on Tuesday's cover.

[The Jukebox Rebel]

 

19.09.2017 Rangers [h] L1-3 aet (League Cup Quarter Final)

MILESTONE MAN STRIKES AGAIN

• Kris Doolan scores Thistle's 300th competitive goal against Rangers and, with it being his third strike against them, can proudly reflect on having bagged 1% of the grand total.
  
• The number nine overtakes Davie McParland in the competitive scoring chart and now becomes Thistle's highest scorer since George Smith, 54 years ago.
  
• Ryan Scully's poor clean-sheet ratio continues to tumble downwards, now sitting at just 17.2%. By contrast, Tomáš Cerný sits impressively on 34.7%.
  
• Thistle have now lost all seven of their home League Cup matches with Rangers, a run which is 64 years-old and counting.
  
• Thistle's monstrous run of 28 competitive games without a win versus Rangers rumbles on.
  

 

ongoing sequences:

 

• 6 home League games without a win, 7th May 2017 to date. (Longest run since: 8 games; 27th Aug 2016 to 9th Dec 2016. Club-record: 15 games; 5th Dec 1908 to 11th Dec 1909 & 16th Apr 2013 to 1st Feb 2014.)
  
• 8 away League games without a win, 18th Mar 2017 to date. (Longest run since: 8 games; 29th Sep 2012 to 16th Feb 2013. Club-record: 26 games; 20th Mar 1935 to 29th Aug 1936.)
  
• 12 League games without a win, 15th Apr 2017 to date. (Longest run since: 12 games; 9th May 2015 to 26th Sep 2015. Club-record: 26 games; 28th Nov 1908 to 2nd Oct 1909.)
  
• 12 League games without a clean-sheet, 15th Apr 2017 to date. (Longest run since: 14 games; 1st Feb 2014 to 10th May 2014. Club-record: 46 games; 20th Apr 1908 to 30th Oct 1909.)
  
• 34 consecutive competitive appearances for Adam Barton, 28th Dec 2016 to date. (Longest run since: Kris Doolan - 39 games; 15th Oct 2016 to 5th Aug 2017. Club-record: Johnny Jackson - 313 games; 28th Aug 1926 to 25th Mar 1933.)
  
• 65 away League games without a penalty award, 1st Mar 2014 to date. (A new club-record.)
  

 

 

[allyo]

Doolan and Erskine. Absolute legends, both of them.

[The Jukebox Rebel]

 

23.09.2017 Heart of Midlothian [h] D1-1 (SPFL Premiership - game 7)

SPITTAL'S ON FIRE!

• Christie Elliott's enforced 67th minute retiral due to injury leaves Adam Barton as this season's last man standing on maximum competitive game time; 1,200 minutes in total.
  
• Blair Spittal's direct approach in the final third continues to pay dividends, and he now sits atop both the competitve goals chart (6) and the competitive assists chart (4) in 2017-18. All this from just 9 appearances!
  
• Thistle register a third consecutive League draw for the first time since August, 2013. The record of 5-in-a-row was set in August, 1975.
  
• Thistle go 4 games unbeaten against Hearts for the first time since the H2H record run (13) was set in 1983.
  
• Alan Archibald's Jags go 13 League games without a win; now the longest run since Gerry Collins's side registered 14 winless outings in 2003.
  

ongoing sequences:

 

• 7 competitive games without a win, 11th Aug 2017 to date. (Longest run since: 7 games; 15th Apr 2017 to 15th Jul 2017. Club-record: 26 games; 28th Nov 1908 to 25th Aug 1909.)
  
• 7 home League games without a win, 7th May 2017 to date. (Longest run since: 8 games; 27th Aug 2016 to 9th Dec 2016. Club-record: 15 games; 5th Dec 1908 to 11th Dec 1909 & 16th Apr 2013 to 1st Feb 2014.)
  
• 8 away League games without a win, 18th Mar 2017 to date. (Longest run since: 8 games; 29th Sep 2012 to 16th Feb 2013. Club-record: 26 games; 20th Mar 1935 to 29th Aug 1936.)
  
• 13 League games without a win, 15th Apr 2017 to date. (Longest run since: 14 games; 9th Aug 2003 to 29th Nov 2003. Club-record: 26 games; 28th Nov 1908 to 2nd Oct 1909.)
  
• 13 League games without a clean-sheet, 15th Apr 2017 to date. (Longest run since: 14 games; 1st Feb 2014 to 10th May 2014. Club-record: 46 games; 20th Apr 1908 to 30th Oct 1909.)
  
• 35 consecutive competitive appearances for Adam Barton, 28th Dec 2016 to date. (Longest run since: Kris Doolan - 39 games; 15th Oct 2016 to 5th Aug 2017. Club-record: Johnny Jackson - 313 games; 28th Aug 1926 to 25th Mar 1933.)
  
• 65 away League games without a penalty award, 1st Mar 2014 to date. (A new club-record.)
  

 

 

[allyo]

Spittal to break Doolan's high scorer run this season?

[The Jukebox Rebel]

 

30.09.2017 Motherwell [a] L0-3 (SPFL Premiership - game 8)

All-TIME LOWS AT FIR PARK

• For the third match-in-a-row, Thistle fill only 6 of the 7 permitted bench slots. In total, 7 slots have been left unfilled in competitive action this term, already matching what was an unprecedented tally of 7 unfilled slots last season. During the same period, our Premiership opponents have been complete every time.
  
• 4 consecutive League losses at Fir Park (26.09.2015 to date) matches the H2H record which set in 1960, then equalled in 1972 and 2014.
  
• 12 League games without a win at Fir Park (10.08.2002 to date) re-sets the H2H record.
  
• 13 competitive games without a win at Fir Park (10.08.2002 to date) re-sets the H2H record.
  
• These two sides have now played 11 successive competitive games without a repeated outcome (04.10.2014 to date). As a theoretical crumb of comfort, Thistle fans can look forward to not losing at Firhill in December!
  
• Thistle go 14 League games without a win, now jointly our second longest streak in history, only trumped by the club-record run of 26, set in October, 1909.
  

ongoing sequences:

 

• 7 home League games without a win, 7th May 2017 to date. (Longest run since: 8 games; 27th Aug 2016 to 9th Dec 2016. Club-record: 15 games; 5th Dec 1908 to 11th Dec 1909 & 16th Apr 2013 to 1st Feb 2014.)
  
• 8 competitive games without a win, 11th Aug 2017 to date. (Longest run since: 9 games; 9th Aug 2016 to 22nd Oct 2016. Club-record: 26 games; 28th Nov 1908 to 25th Aug 1909.)
  
• 9 away League games without a win, 18th Mar 2017 to date. (Longest run since: 9 games; 10th Mar 2007 to 6th Oct 2007. Club-record: 26 games; 20th Mar 1935 to 29th Aug 1936.)
  
• 14 League games without a win, 15th Apr 2017 to date. (Longest run since: 14 games; 9th Aug 2003 to 29th Nov 2003. Club-record: 26 games; 28th Nov 1908 to 2nd Oct 1909.)
  
• 14 League games without a clean-sheet, 15th Apr 2017 to date. (Longest run since: 14 games; 1st Feb 2014 to 10th May 2014. Club-record: 46 games; 20th Apr 1908 to 30th Oct 1909.)
  
• 36 consecutive competitive appearances for Adam Barton, 28th Dec 2016 to date. (Longest run since: Kris Doolan - 39 games; 15th Oct 2016 to 5th Aug 2017. Club-record: Johnny Jackson - 313 games; 28th Aug 1926 to 25th Mar 1933.)
  
• 66 away League games without a penalty award, 1st Mar 2014 to date. (A new club-record.)
  

 

 

Edited October 6, 2017 by The Jukebox Rebel

[Lenziejag]

What is the longest run in the same season without a win ?

[lady-isobel-barnett]

Yep, I think it seems to feel that way at the moment. In 4 out of the last 7 League games at Firhill, the "big guns" (including Celtic, Aberdeen & Rangers) have left without so much as a single yellow card.

 

I'm not recording yellow card timings, but I can offer an overview of the various disciplinary aspects.

 

Since the last promotion, in 183 competitive games, we've received 325 yellows as opposed to our opponents 250. We've had 23 reds as opposed to our opponents 7. We've won 11 penalties and conceded 27.

 

By my reckoning our percentage of yellows in games this season is up a bit on all games but up considerably on league games (maybe as high as 70%?). I've not included yellows resulting in reds. Hardly need reminding we've had 3 reds (2 in league) already to nil. Injuries are costing us dear. That's bad enough without the prospect of having more than our share in due course of suspensions.

[The Jukebox Rebel]

What is the longest run in the same season without a win ?

Easily our nightmare season of 1908-09 when having no fixed abode demoralised the entire Thistle camp. Within that term we went 20 League games without a win and 23 competitive games without a win; both would be category records if you wanted to look at it that way.

 

 

By my reckoning our percentage of yellows in games this season is up a bit on all games but up considerably on league games (maybe as high as 70%?). I've not included yellows resulting in reds. Hardly need reminding we've had 3 reds (2 in league) already to nil. Injuries are costing us dear. That's bad enough without the prospect of having more than our share in due course of suspensions.

Not sure about that. The 4-0 "card loss" on Saturday is probably playing tricks. Pushing on for 2 per game is about par for the course when we're a top-flight club, as you can see from the table below. Look at 1997-98 - we were an angry lot during Save The Jags

 

2017-18 - 25 in 14 (1.79pg)

2016-17 - 80 in 46 (1.74pg)

2015-16 - 76 in 41 (1.85pg)

2014-15 - 78 in 43 (1.81pg)

2013-14 - 73 in 42 (1.74pg)

2012-13 - 53 in 47 (1.13pg)

2011-12 - 55 in 42 (1.31pg)

2010-11 - 60 in 46 (1.30pg)

2009-10 - 50 in 42 (1.19pg)

2008-09 - 51 in 45 (1.13pg)

2007-08 - 58 in 47 (1.23pg)

2006-07 - 67 in 42 (1.60pg)

2005-06 - 81 in 51 (1.59pg)

2004-05 - 62 in 43 (1.44pg)

2003-04 - 66 in 43 (1.53pg)

2002-03 - 50 in 42 (1.19pg)

2001-02 - 51 in 47 (1.09pg)

2000-01 - 40 in 40 (1.00pg)

1999-00 - 58 in 44 (1.13pg)

1998-99 - 58 in 40 (1.45pg)

1997-98 - 79 in 39 (2.03pg)

[lady-isobel-barnett]

Sorry TJR, I was meaning we're picking up yellows at rate of 7 to us as opposed to 3 for our opponents (league games this season). That's where the "70%" came from The figures you kindly provided show since we came up roughly on the same basis 56%. I think the widening of that gap is fairly significant especially when we're already down 2 league reds to nil.

[The Jukebox Rebel]

Ah, I beg your pardon, I was away wi' with the heid down wi' the wrong baton there.

 

Our yellows share in competitive action is up a wee bit on the recently quoted post-promotion average. We're on 25/40 which equates to 62.5%.

 

The season's disciplinary summary reads 25 yellows to our opponents 15; 3 reds to our opponents 0; 1 penalty gained to our opponents 3.

 

According to my (by now, surely) world famous points system, we're losing this term's discipline battle by a country mile; 20pts for and 52pts against.

 

So far this season, in terms of our stats figures, we're struggling from every angle.

[lady-isobel-barnett]

Thanks, TJR . Dismal reading all the same. I've been to all the games and my gut feeling, despite some incredibly inconsistent refereeing, is we often don't manage our games to the same level as our opponents. The quality of refereeing has been dismal so a player sitting on a early yellow has to be extra careful not to pick up a second. That would be OK if it was even stevens with our opponents.

[The Jukebox Rebel]

 

14.10.2017 Kilmarnock [h] L0-2 (SPFL Premiership - game 9)

THE RECORD LOWS JUST KEEP ON COMING

• For the fourth match-in-a-row, Thistle fail to fill the 7 permitted bench slots. In total, 9 slots have been left unfilled in competitive action this term, an unprecedented tally in any given season and we're only in October.
  
• 10 games without a win at home against Kilmarnock (22.11.2003 to date) re-sets the H2H record in both the League and Competitive game categories.
  
• Thistle are now 15 League games without a clean-sheet. The last time there was a longer run (18 in 2003), the club was relegated from the top-flight.
  
• Thistle stand with Brechin City as one of only 2 SPFL clubs still searching for a first League win this term.
  
• Thistle's winless run of 15 League games now stands alone as the second longest such streak in our history, only trumped by the club-record run of 26, set by the largely nomadic Jags of 1908 and 1909.
  

 

ongoing sequences:

 

• 8 home League games without a win, 7th May 2017 to date. (Longest run since: 8 games; 27th Aug 2016 to 9th Dec 2016. Club-record: 15 games; 5th Dec 1908 to 11th Dec 1909 & 16th Apr 2013 to 1st Feb 2014.)
  
• 9 competitive games without a win, 11th Aug 2017 to date. (Longest run since: 9 games; 9th Aug 2016 to 22nd Oct 2016. Club-record: 26 games; 28th Nov 1908 to 25th Aug 1909.)
  
• 9 away League games without a win, 18th Mar 2017 to date. (Longest run since: 9 games; 10th Mar 2007 to 6th Oct 2007. Club-record: 26 games; 20th Mar 1935 to 29th Aug 1936.)
  
• 15 League games without a win, 15th Apr 2017 to date. (Longest run since the club-record: 26 games; 28th Nov 1908 to 2nd Oct 1909.)
  
• 15 League games without a clean-sheet, 15th Apr 2017 to date. (Longest run since: 15 games; 10th Aug 2013 to 21st Dec 2013. Club-record: 46 games; 20th Apr 1908 to 30th Oct 1909.)
  
• 37 consecutive competitive appearances for Adam Barton, 28th Dec 2016 to date. (Longest run since: Kris Doolan - 39 games; 15th Oct 2016 to 5th Aug 2017. Club-record: Johnny Jackson - 313 games; 28th Aug 1926 to 25th Mar 1933.)
  
• 66 away League games without a penalty award, 1st Mar 2014 to date. (A new club-record.)
  

 

 

[Jimmy McD]

Excellent stats TJR. Can you now tell us when we are going to get a win.............

[The Jukebox Rebel]

I don't know about that Jimmy, but I can offer the class of 2017-18 some incentive...

 

 

 

A win to nil on Saturday and Archie's Jags will be the first Thistle side in history to register 4 successive wins to nil aganst Dundee.