lady-isobel-barnett Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 Fair enough - I was unaware of any of that, so I apologise to you. As you say, it is unlikely that Martin Woods would have made any difference today anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knightswood Jag Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 Actually fed up of injuries, people can say “It’s just your luck” but I’m sorry this amount of injuries is not down to luck, there’s obviously something seriously wrong behind the scenes at training or in the physio’s room. Honestly can’t remember the last time we had a fully fit squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fearchar Posted November 6, 2017 Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 (edited) Actually fed up of injuries, people can say “It’s just your luck” but I’m sorry this amount of injuries is not down to luck, there’s obviously something seriously wrong behind the scenes at training or in the physio’s room. Honestly can’t remember the last time we had a fully fit squad. This - and the thrawn refusal to use younger players. The players are not only injured more often: they are also slower than their opponents. There doesn't seem to be any succession planning other than relying on signings. Edited November 6, 2017 by Fearchar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Murray Posted November 6, 2017 Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 This - and the thrash refusal to use younger players. The players are not only injured more often: they are also slower than their opponents. There doesn't seem to be any succession planning other than relying on signings. What young players have we refused to use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fearchar Posted November 6, 2017 Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 What young players have we refused to use? Given the marshmallow consistency of our midfield, McCarthy should be a regular starter. Sending Penrice out on loan when he would give the first team service seems (with the benefit of hindsight) to be short-sighted. Obviously, if you keep playing older players, they'll get injured more often. IMHO the management team lacks a streak of ruthlessness, and it shows in selections in the short term (substitutions after the point at which they could change the game), in the way older players are retained and in the way younger ones that aren't going to make it are held on to without them even getting to the stage of playing for the first team. One more outing for Nisbet, for example, and it should be clear if he can make it or not; if not, let him go to find a level that suits him. Anything else is wrong for the club and wrong for him. A competitive football club at the top flight cannot afford sentimental loyalty. Regarding longstanding/repeated injuries, I would hope that all involved with medical care and training have been made aware that their performance does not appear to be up to the standard the club requires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted November 6, 2017 Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 This - and the thrawn refusal to use younger players. The players are not only injured more often: they are also slower than their opponents. There doesn't seem to be any succession planning other than relying on signings. Storey didn't look particularly slow for his winning goal a couple of weeks ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted November 6, 2017 Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 "One more outing for Nisbet, for example, and it should be clear if he can make it or not; if not, let him go to find a level that suits him." How many games did Azeez get? Stevenson? How many will Sammon get before he shows "if he can make it or not." It's asking a lot for a youngster with almost no full 1st team games under his belt to somehow show in his next "outing" whether he can make it or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Murray Posted November 6, 2017 Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 (edited) Where you at the Dundee match? McCarthy struggled through the game and as Archie has said, he has a lot to learn about positioning and when to release the ball. You could argue that he should have been left in the side to learn but he picked up an injury for the next match against Hamilton. In my view, the best course of action would be to send him out on loan, however with us being so short of numbers that is not possible. This could change in January and I would think it’s the best course of action. Penrice at the time of being sent out on loan was third choice left back/wingback behind Booth and Elliot. No manager could foresee losing both of your left sided options through injury. Penrice is now playing first-team football at top 4 side in the championship. It’s great experience for him and he will come back a better player for it. The real problem here is that we have struggled in midfield with the loss of Abdul. Here lies the problem and a valid criticism of Archie is we should never been so weakened after the loss of just one player. The signing of Martin woods is a move to hopefully change this but you also have to wonder why Archie did not move quicker given the obvious problem we had. Edited November 6, 2017 by Alan Murray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted November 6, 2017 Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 Something we'll never know for certain when Penrice comes back is if he would be the same standard had he stayed and been thrown in at the deep end. As above post he was third choice left back and at time of going out on loan looking at getting little or no game time. We know he's been successful once again with his loan club. As in the summer friendlies he's been played out of position at Almondvale, which should by logic help his overall game. If we did have the power to recall him from his loan spell we'd likely have been forced down that road. Not being able to may well be a blessing in disguise. Just one of these things we'll never know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Stronach Posted November 6, 2017 Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 Actually fed up of injuries, people can say “It’s just your luck” but I’m sorry this amount of injuries is not down to luck, there’s obviously something seriously wrong behind the scenes at training or in the physio’s room. Honestly can’t remember the last time we had a fully fit squad. I suggest you contact the club immediately. Your medical and scientific knowledge is clearly way beyond that of anyone currently employed at Firhill. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted November 6, 2017 Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 Always thought the expression 'you make your own luck' was a load of crap. Almost by definition, if you make it yourself then it isn't luck. People really talk a lot of rubbish for the sake of a cliché these days. Anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted November 6, 2017 Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 People really talk a lot of rubbish for the sake of a cliché these days. Agree 110% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted November 6, 2017 Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 Agree 110% Took the words right out of my mouth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlgarveJag Posted November 8, 2017 Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 literally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
partickthedog Posted November 9, 2017 Report Share Posted November 9, 2017 DEFINATELY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 14, 2017 Report Share Posted November 14, 2017 Ah, a champagne charlie nic word, or should he say, wurd......deffin-a-t-e-l-y Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen1876 Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 Martin Woods seems to be the latest to have disappeared without trace to injury. Archie and Shaggy must be frustrated beyond belief at their luck this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 Woods seems to be the latest to have disappeared without trace to injury Deforestation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fearchar Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 There was a surprising mention of Doolan being given an icepack immediately after playing at Tynecastle, although he said he didn't feel any pain. Maybe there lies the answer to why the team's injuries seem so persistent. In some quarters, the claims for icepacks are being called into question. If there is no inflammation, there is no need for an icepack. If there is inflammation, one view is that the inflammation is the body's way of protecting itself and furthering healing. "Because of the lack of research, we can’t conclusively prove whether or not icing is a useful therapy." <https://runnersconnect.net/ice-running-injuries> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garscube Road End Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 Seemingly Osman has said he is almost fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen1876 Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 That would be a big boost ahead of December. We have really missed him and Adam can’t be too far off of a suspension as he has picked up a few bookings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elevenone Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 Seemingly Osman has said he is almost fit. And on Osmans social media he has pic of Dumbuya who states he is almost fit too, if we got the old Mustapha back and running it would be like a welcome new signing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 Deforestation? DeForest Kelly, Captain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin energy Posted December 6, 2017 Report Share Posted December 6, 2017 Mustapha :o :o :o :o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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