stuart_adam Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 Barton has a cheek blaming others, hes been one of our worst players this year. Dallies on the ball far too long, too many touches and is slow as a week in the jail when trying to get back 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggy Bunnet Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 Read the Barton article a couple of times. Lot of truth in what he says, but I’m not sure saying it in a newspaper is the way to go. But maybe it needed said? Maybe there’s been stuff going on we don’t know? On the whole I’m a Barton fan. On his day he can move the ball well and quickly, but for me doesn’t have the outlet just now with no real wing backs. My guess is this interview is a “want away in the transfer window” kind of statement. Hope I’m wrong and we win 3-0 today. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennymac29 Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 Read the Barton article a couple of times. Lot of truth in what he says, but I’m not sure saying it in a newspaper is the way to go. But maybe it needed said? Maybe there’s been stuff going on we don’t know? On the whole I’m a Barton fan. On his day he can move the ball well and quickly, but for me doesn’t have the outlet just now with no real wing backs. My guess is this interview is a “want away in the transfer window” kind of statement. Hope I’m wrong and we win 3-0 today. I don't think I've ever seen Barton move the ball quickly. His main problem is he wants too much time and is the biggest culprit for losing possession cheaply. Something which Sean Welsh, quite rightly, was slaughtered for. I think he forgets part of his job in midfield is to get the ball back as well as retain possession. Neither of which he has done so far this season so maybe he should concentrate on his own game instead of passing the buck. Andy McCarthy in for me please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 Didn’t like Barton’s interview to be honest. Makes him look a bit big time and doesn’t sound like a very harmonious squad right now, but he is right about some things. Our defence has been honking, with far too many individual errors Barton's interview will have been sanctioned by the Club. In fact he may well be effectively a mouthpiece. He has a point re distribution when he struggles to find an outlet. I've put that down to lack of movement on the flanks due to playing without width. I wouldn't have thought it was a case of others "hiding" but it amounts to the same thing. That's at least something Barton can't be accused of and perhaps the player we really have missed is Sean Welsh, a player who even his detractors admit never hid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennymac29 Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 (edited) Barton's interview will have been sanctioned by the Club. In fact he may well be effectively a mouthpiece. He has a point re distribution when he struggles to find an outlet. I've put that down to lack of movement on the flanks due to playing without width. I wouldn't have thought it was a case of others "hiding" but it amounts to the same thing. That's at least something Barton can't be accused of and perhaps the player we really have missed is Sean Welsh, a player who even his detractors admit never hid. I agree with you about the lack of options when Barton has the ball but the problem many fans have is his complete can't be arsed attitude when he does lose the ball. How many times this season has he just stopped when the balls taken off him? We can't afford a player like that when times are tough at the bottom. He seems happy to have the ball but doesn't seem to appreciate its also his job to get it back if he loses it. Edited December 23, 2017 by kennymac29 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Jag Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 Lets hope we get a 'cracker' of a result today and we 'sleigh' Hamilton.We can do this if our defence doesn't give them any 'presents'. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleGreySky Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 Just read his interview. -He seemed to almost concede the Celtic game before it had been played (3 points were available, the same as vs Hamilton). -He talks about fatigue, like the team look like they're putting in a lot of effort. They don't play at a high tempo or press so there's no excuse for 'fatigue'. Barton is woeful. He lets his man go every time the other team make a move. Watch the first clip on the BBC highlights vs Celtic. He's a liability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stillresigned Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 This is possibly the most important game we'be played since our last really important game! Seriously, it's win or bust for me, no ifs, no buts, no maybes. Our display against Celtic if not pleasing at least represented a vast improvement from the complete horror show at Dens. The players know the importance of today's game: so the only excuse for a defeat today will be that that they simply aren't good enough. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaila Street Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 Isn't his contract up in a week or so? Has he done enough to merit a new one? And if he hasn't recovered from the knock should he be offered a new one? Get that total chancer out the door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potty trained Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 It's incredible the power journalists have in influencing readers opinion. Both the sun and evening times use exactly the same quotes from Barton, but the articles read completely differently. Having read both articles, I'm more concerned about why McGarry is writing a hatchet job, considering he's our local press go to guy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonehJags Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 McCarthy being rested for the next game against Celtic by the looks of it. Not sure about that starting 11. Hope they can do the business Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaggybunnet Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 yessssss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 Keown is a gem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thistle4celtic1 Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 Thistle lucky to grab all three points.....but I'm not complaining. Lawless and Czerny top two for me today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 Welcome back Adam Barton excellent today as was Keown, Lawless and Erskine, whole team battled, well deserved 3 points Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 Thistle lucky to grab all three points.....but I'm not complaining. Lawless and Czerny top two for me today. We were the better team, they hit the bar (as did we) but overall I think we deserved that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garscube Road End Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 Well done Jags. Nice to be off the bottom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonehJags Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 Brilliant 3 points, that will do me for Christmas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jags on tour Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 (edited) great result and a clean sheet against a relegation rival. now do we stick with that back 3 or drop barton with JT coming in or the other way about? it doesn’t really matter who or what we play vs Aberdeen as we will still lose but County is the big game. Woods probably won’t be fit to play vs Aberdeen so I would assume Barton would be moved into the middle. Edited December 23, 2017 by jags on tour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnome on the Bing Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 That was an ugly, scrappy game, and we rode our luck on more than one occasion, but we're off the bottom of the table! I thought Barton was excellent in the middle of the back three, and Lawless deserves credit for the job he's doing in an unfamiliar position. Doolan also held the ball up well in the first half and won a fair number of headers against a defence not lacking in height. Yes, there were times where our midfield went AWOL, and as usual we dropped too deep too early, but in the absence of so many first team players, particularly in the full-back positions, a win's a win's a win. Have a great festive break, folks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Jag Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 I thought Woods was motm,his corners are dangerous.Thought we deserved the 3points.A good clean sheet.Hope this gives us confidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eljaggo Posted December 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 Barton had a good game - he was very positive, making some good interceptions, and was clearly more at home in the centre of the defence. Archie in the BBC interview after the game said that he had been forced to play Barton up until today in midfield because of injuries, so with Bannigan, Dumbaya and Osman returning after the break, the team should be better balanced. The whole team was much more aggressive and harried Hamilton fairly high in the pitch throughout the game, but there were still some bombscare moments in defence. A well deserved three points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennymac29 Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 Will take the three points but the standard of play from both side's was piss poor. Hopefully that was partly down to the weather but our best spell in the first half was when we finally started playing the ball on the deck. Credit to cerny, Mcginn and lawless for the clean sheet as all defended well. Our midfield was totally bypassed in the second half, however it was pleasing to hold on for once. I just wish we pressed the opposition higher up and stopped backing off. Would love to know what storey said to sarris to make him totally lose it at the end. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eljaggo Posted December 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 (edited) The attendance today was around 2900 of which 350 were Hamilton fans. To muster only around 2500 fans for such a key game is very disappointing, but maybe it's partly down to Christmas, and so maybe a couple of wins will see an improvement after the break. Edited December 24, 2017 by eljaggo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokiejag Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 Great 3 points today, the result of all the players working hard and holding on gamely at the end. Thought Tam and the back 5 were superb with Barton and Lawless outstanding. Dools and Erskine looked good upfront in the first half and Woods looks to be a smashing signing. Well done Archie, Shaggy and the players, no more chat about getting rid of Archie please. Let's get behind him and the players for the rest of the season. OTIG. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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