Third Lanark Posted July 15, 2018 Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 2 hours ago, sandy said: Barton had a good first season with us, then he couldn’t decide if he was a midfielder or defender. Needed to move on. I still think Keown could do a job for us if he stayed. He didn’t have a good season, but he is an intelligent player and will knuckle down if given the chance. He still holds the number 5 shirt. It’s nothing to do with the player himself it’s the wages that he is on that appears to be the big problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuart_adam Posted July 15, 2018 Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 Scottish Sun says we are in for Paul McMullan from Dundee Utd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jag Posted July 15, 2018 Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 10 hours ago, stuart_adam said: Scottish Sun says we are in for Paul McMullan from Dundee Utd He's a good wee player from what I've seen of him would question why Dundee Utd would let him go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashman Posted July 15, 2018 Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 12 minutes ago, Jag said: He's a good wee player from what I've seen of him would question why Dundee Utd would let him go. Need to free up room for Adam Barton's massive wage... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jags on tour Posted July 15, 2018 Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 11 minutes ago, Jag said: He's a good wee player from what I've seen of him would question why Dundee Utd would let him go. I think he’s a similar player to Higgy, good player but not consistent enough, has 1 good season then it peters out. The DUFC fans don’t seem too happy that Czaba is letting him go. I’d be more interested in Keatings if I’m honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambies Lost Doo Posted July 15, 2018 Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 Keown during loan season. "He's a good player. Solid with potential to be better. Çan play in back 3 or 2. Sell on potential would be promising. No chance of getting him. *Wow he signed permanently. Would have prefered 3 years* Keown during last season. "What the f*** happened to him?" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Murray Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 9 hours ago, jags on tour said: I think he’s a similar player to Higgy, good player but not consistent enough, has 1 good season then it peters out. The DUFC fans don’t seem too happy that Czaba is letting him go. I’d be more interested in Keatings if I’m honest. 1 Keatings is a good player but maybe too similar to Erskine and Spittal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 On 7/15/2018 at 6:37 AM, javeajag said: Interesting watching Archie smiling as he said Barton has gone to a club that can afford his wages ! Bit of semantics but if Archie actually said that I'm fairly certain he's incorrect. He should have said he's gone to a club that is willing to pay his wages. We'll no doubt find out in due course if United are in a financial position to afford to pay for anything. Also interesting to a point that nearly all of the top division clubs could match and many outbid United. But looks like there was little or no interest. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 I also wonder if they got the 2016/17 Adam Barton or the 2017/18 version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eljaggo Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 Barton's patchy performance last year was down more to being played in mid-field rather than in defence, where he played much better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulo Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 Utd seem to think they've signed a midfielder. Can't wait to see him do his revolving door impression in a different shirt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlgarveJag Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 Archie should be able to identify at least 3 weak spots to exploit at Tannadice then. (still sorry to see Freddie Frans with that shower) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bunny Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 On 14/07/2018 at 4:38 PM, javeajag said: Debt free means you spend money you do have not money you don’t .... there is no bottomless pit Unless these new guys who bought out Thompson are putting in lots of money (the money they spent so far went to Thompson) it looks very much like DU are betting their shirts on going up this season. I'm pretty sure they weren't completely out of debt yet and they must be paying over the odds (for this division) for the players mentioned. If they fail again they are in real trouble. I'm happy that despite aggressive talk from the board, we seem to be living within our means. Top four place and good performances in the play offs will do me I reckon with the club in a position to still challenge the following year if we don't make it as we'll have no worries about debt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weebaw1 Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 58 minutes ago, Mr Bunny said: Unless these new guys who bought out Thompson are putting in lots of money (the money they spent so far went to Thompson) it looks very much like DU are betting their shirts on going up this season. I'm pretty sure they weren't completely out of debt yet and they must be paying over the odds (for this division) for the players mentioned. If they fail again they are in real trouble. I'm happy that despite aggressive talk from the board, we seem to be living within our means. Top four place and good performances in the play offs will do me I reckon with the club in a position to still challenge the following year if we don't make it as we'll have no worries about debt. I agree. 1 down, 2 to go. If we can shift the remaining overpaid gruesome twosome, players will find a newly cleared out Thistle an attractive proposition. I don’t think the Macnamara/McCall inspired promotion team build cost much to put together. There’s no reason why Archie can’t do something similar and sign possibly another 4 or 5 aspirants. But only if last year’s dead wood leaves. Perhaps they’ll go to the delights of DUFC! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlgarveJag Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 Quite happy that Connor Sammon returned to Hearts but just as happy to hear that he won't be coming to Firhill in the league as Hearts have farmed (sorry for the pun) him out to Motherwell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 On 16/07/2018 at 5:50 PM, Weebaw1 said: I agree. 1 down, 2 to go. If we can shift the remaining overpaid gruesome twosome, players will find a newly cleared out Thistle an attractive proposition. I don’t think the Macnamara/McCall inspired promotion team build cost much to put together. There’s no reason why Archie can’t do something similar and sign possibly another 4 or 5 aspirants. But only if last year’s dead wood leaves. Perhaps they’ll go to the delights of DUFC! I think the ‘gruesome twosome’ is not appropriate; the fact that their contracted wages reflect Premier status and we are now in Chanpionship, is not all their fault. Plus they have played some good games for the Club. I hope Keown stays tbh 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garscube Road End Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 1 hour ago, sandy said: I think the ‘gruesome twosome’ is not appropriate; the fact that their contracted wages reflect Premier status and we are now in Chanpionship, is not all their fault. Plus they have played some good games for the Club. I hope Keown stays tbh By the looks of it Archie seems happy to keep Storey, as I am, and let Keown go to free up some wages to bolster the squad. I agree with you. I'd like to keep Keown, but I think it puts restraints on Archie regards depth of squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaggy Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 3 hours ago, sandy said: I think the ‘gruesome twosome’ is not appropriate; the fact that their contracted wages reflect Premier status and we are now in Chanpionship, is not all their fault. Plus they have played some good games for the Club. I hope Keown stays tbh How much were these guys actually getting paid and how can it be affecting our squad so much? Surely bad planning on our front by not enforcing a relegation wage cut in the contracts offered? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibble Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 This may prove controversial but for a while I have been wondering what exactly does erskine bring to the team and whether a different type of number 10 would serve us better or play him more as a traditional winger? BTW I think Archie still fancies storey to do a job for us. Every time I have watched training this year storey is always involved in matches , per season games etc. Whe. You see him in these environments I believe he is a class above all other players with terrific pace and technique. Would really like to see him get a run through the middle. If he could just get into the right places and scored a couple he could go onto to become one of the best in the division. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 2 hours ago, jaggy said: How much were these guys actually getting paid and how can it be affecting our squad so much? Surely bad planning on our front by not enforcing a relegation wage cut in the contracts offered? Maybe we wouldn’t have got them otherwise ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 From what is see we need the following LB (Cover) RB (Cover) CB (Cover), maybe 2 Ball winning CM LW (Cover) RW (Cover) CF (2 of, as Dools cannot do it on his own, plus need on bench, Cover & competition) thats between 6 &8 players if I was AA I’d be trying to get in, the fact we could only field 4 outfield subs last night, with 1 of them transferlisted, 2 still kids plus McCarthy who has only last year stepped up from development squad shows the fragility of current squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin energy Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 Think we are need a Defensive Midfielder to protect the back 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potty trained Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 2 hours ago, kevin energy said: Think we are need a Defensive Midfielder to protect the back 4 Going by Archie's post match interview, an experienced DM is top of his wish list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambies Lost Doo Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 I'd be hoping for some more loan signings to help the squad. No idea tho who. Bannigan to help CM. Paul Paton now at Falkirk Sean Welsh now at Inverness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggy Bunnet Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 (edited) Trying to remember our last Championship winning squad, specifically with regards to depth of squad. Forgive for my omissions, but I’m too lazy to look up a match programme! Fox, Scully O’Donnell, Muirhead, Balatoni, Taylor-Sinclair, Lidsay(?) Paton, Bannigan, Welsh, Murray Erskine, Lawless, Craigen, Forbes Doolan, Craig I must be missing some out, but my point is that’s a squad of 17 or so. Edited July 18, 2018 by Jaggy Bunnet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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