KemoAvdiu Posted July 30, 2018 Report Share Posted July 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, ScottyDFA said: Let's hope the economically correct time never arrives. Every time mention is made of Firhill being turned into a housing scheme, I feel slightly ashamed of the football club I've loved since I was a very small boy. Would you rather the ground lay unused? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted July 30, 2018 Report Share Posted July 30, 2018 4 minutes ago, ScottyDFA said: Let's hope the economically correct time never arrives. Every time mention is made of Firhill being turned into a housing scheme, I feel slightly ashamed of the football club I've loved since I was a very small boy. Could "residential accomodation" be more student residences? Doesn't seem to have had any adverse effect at the other end of the ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottyDFA Posted July 30, 2018 Report Share Posted July 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, KemoAvdiu said: Would you rather the ground lay unused? No problem whatsoever with a safe standing area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potty trained Posted July 30, 2018 Report Share Posted July 30, 2018 45 minutes ago, ScottyDFA said: Let's hope the economically correct time never arrives. Every time mention is made of Firhill being turned into a housing scheme, I feel slightly ashamed of the football club I've loved since I was a very small boy. The systematic destruction of Firhill has been horrible to watch. Every time with the tag line of providing long term financial security for the Club. And every time the financial stability has hardly lasted a decade. The funny thing is, if previous Directors hadn't have needed to sell off parts of the ground to cover for their financial mismanagement, we probably would have had enough spare land to rebuild as a 6-8000 capacity stadium with training facilities on site. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottyDFA Posted July 30, 2018 Report Share Posted July 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, scotty said: Could "residential accomodation" be more student residences? Doesn't seem to have had any adverse effect at the other end of the ground. The area of the ground to the north of the pitch was always much bigger than to the south. While I disliked that finances at the time virtually dictated that some of that space be sold, the fact that the new north stand and the flats that were built on the sold land were separate made the outcome tolerable, I suppose. There's a lot less space at the south end than there was at the north, so it's almost certain that these plans that exist for the "development" of the city end of the ground involve a block of flats with a crap football stand bolted onto the back of them. Partick Thistle FC is a football club, not a housing association. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerrybritton9 Posted July 30, 2018 Report Share Posted July 30, 2018 I see people reporting the “first hand reports” of the “love-in” make no mention of the discussions about Jack Storer. I was in the room btw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert's Ghost Posted July 30, 2018 Report Share Posted July 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, gerrybritton9 said: I see people reporting the “first hand reports” of the “love-in” make no mention of the discussions about Jack Storer. I was in the room btw Do tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fawlty Towers Posted July 30, 2018 Report Share Posted July 30, 2018 7 minutes ago, Albert's Ghost said: Do tell. Not to steal my fellow poster's thunder but a gentleman pointed out that Storer had a prolonged bit of shouting at the ref on Saturday and asked if Archie had spoken to him about this. Archie stated that Jack had got himself a bit of a reputation which is why some clubs nearer to home for him did not take a chance oh him. We know there is a talent in there but we need to manage the other side as well and need to remember he is still young. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roque Posted July 30, 2018 Report Share Posted July 30, 2018 3 hours ago, ScottyDFA said: Let's hope the economically correct time never arrives. Every time mention is made of Firhill being turned into a housing scheme, I feel slightly ashamed of the football club I've loved since I was a very small boy. I appreciate not everyone will share this view, but give me a a small safe standing stand with accommodation built on the back to complete our ground, over 3 stands and an embarrassing grassy mound at one end. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottyDFA Posted July 30, 2018 Report Share Posted July 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Roque said: I appreciate not everyone will share this view, but give me a a small safe standing stand with accommodation built on the back to complete our ground, over 3 stands and an embarrassing grassy mound at one end. Would a small safe standing stand with no accommodation built on the back make you feel better, or does property tycoonery have to figure in the plan to make it sit right with you? Genuine question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted July 30, 2018 Report Share Posted July 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Roque said: I appreciate not everyone will share this view, but give me a a small safe standing stand with accommodation built on the back to complete our ground, over 3 stands and an embarrassing grassy mound at one end. My problem with that would be the safe standing area could be at such a low elevation it would prove unpopular. That said PTFC with a multi million state of the art training complex and the Firhill Bing don't exactly match up. Kinda like having a house with a spanking new conservatory round the back and the windows boarded up at the front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roque Posted July 30, 2018 Report Share Posted July 30, 2018 7 minutes ago, ScottyDFA said: Would a small safe standing stand with no accommodation built on the back make you feel better, or does property tycoonery have to figure in the plan to make it sit right with you? Genuine question. In an ideal world it wouldn't figure in at all, and we'd have a safe-standing terrace/stand for 1,000-1,500 at the city end with nothing else included. I'm realistic, though. The people we sold that land to won't make any kind of return on something which would only have a benefit to Partick Thistle, and not them. Maybe Colin Weir's next act of generosity towards the club could be to buy out the propco shysters, but I won't be holding my breath on that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roque Posted July 30, 2018 Report Share Posted July 30, 2018 6 minutes ago, lady-isobel-barnett said: My problem with that would be the safe standing area could be at such a low elevation it would prove unpopular. That said PTFC with a multi million state of the art training complex and the Firhill Bing don't exactly match up. Kinda like having a house with a spanking new conservatory round the back and the windows boarded up at the front. I don't know how steep & narrow stands factor in with regards to "safe standing" sections in stadiums, but ideally it would be as steep as possible, to try and hide whatever apartment block ends up connected to the back of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottyDFA Posted July 31, 2018 Report Share Posted July 31, 2018 4 hours ago, Roque said: In an ideal world it wouldn't figure in at all, and we'd have a safe-standing terrace/stand for 1,000-1,500 at the city end with nothing else included. I'm realistic, though. The people we sold that land to won't make any kind of return on something which would only have a benefit to Partick Thistle, and not them. Maybe Colin Weir's next act of generosity towards the club could be to buy out the propco shysters, but I won't be holding my breath on that one. If I remember correctly, they've been awarding themselves 5% per annum since the money was put up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted July 31, 2018 Report Share Posted July 31, 2018 3 hours ago, ScottyDFA said: If I remember correctly, they've been awarding themselves 5% per annum since the money was put up. 5% of what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottyDFA Posted July 31, 2018 Report Share Posted July 31, 2018 5% of the £1m they gave to the club in exchange for 50% ownership of the main stand and the city end. £50,000 guaranteed dividend per year on the £1m. That was my understanding of the paperwork I saw at the time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerrybritton9 Posted July 31, 2018 Report Share Posted July 31, 2018 (edited) Question from audience to Gerry Britton: Have you been in touch with Ian Maxwell about your new role and carrying on the work he’s been doing? King Of Spain: ..... (pause) I think Ian’s been busy.... Absolutely hilarious GB! Edited July 31, 2018 by gerrybritton9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Fawlty Towers Posted August 8, 2018 Report Share Posted August 8, 2018 Here is a brief summary of the Q&A from the OS: https://ptfc.co.uk/ptfc-news/open-day-qa-summary/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted August 9, 2018 Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 8 hours ago, Fawlty Towers said: Here is a brief summary of the Q&A from the OS: https://ptfc.co.uk/ptfc-news/open-day-qa-summary/ Ian looks relaxed. Gerry looks nervous. Jacqui looks in control. Archie looks like he's just seen a ghost. Roughie looks happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potty trained Posted August 9, 2018 Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 The Keown situation needs resolved. For team spirit at least. I can't fault the guy. He has a contract and every right to sit on it. But one injury and he's straight in as a first team regular earning a premiership wage surrounded by guys who took a cut. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted August 9, 2018 Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 44 minutes ago, potty trained said: The Keown situation needs resolved. For team spirit at least. I can't fault the guy. He has a contract and every right to sit on it. But one injury and he's straight in as a first team regular earning a premiership wage surrounded by guys who took a cut. Why does he not have a relegation clause? Who sanctioned this? Obviously I'm asking these questions out loud but it strikes me as a ridiculously poor decision. If we can't move him on- or he doesn't sign reduced terms-then we won't be able to get players in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaggy Posted August 9, 2018 Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 1 minute ago, David Brent said: Why does he not have a relegation clause? Who sanctioned this? Obviously I'm asking these questions out loud but it strikes me as a ridiculously poor decision. If we can't move him on- or he doesn't sign reduced terms-then we won't be able to get players in. The same reason Barton and Storey didn't. Crazy decisions made when the contracts were given out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaf Posted August 9, 2018 Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 5 minutes ago, David Brent said: Why does he not have a relegation clause? Who sanctioned this? Obviously I'm asking these questions out loud but it strikes me as a ridiculously poor decision. If we can't move him on- or he doesn't sign reduced terms-then we won't be able to get players in. Agree with the substance of your point, two observations though : 1. Perhaps the players concerned would not sign if there was a relegation clause inserted. 2. The reduction to Storeys wages, and the departure of Barton has not led to getting players in! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunfermline Jag Posted August 9, 2018 Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 The Keown situation is ridiculous and entirely down to the club. If we don't get an offer for him then we either pay him Premiership wages to play for us or we pay him Premiership wages to train with us but don't play him. Given the numbers we have, and the relative quality of Keown versus McGinty, it is reckless & stupid not to be playing him every week. it would also put him in the shop window for a transfer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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