Garscube Road End Posted September 13, 2018 Report Share Posted September 13, 2018 1 hour ago, lady-isobel-barnett said: Four games into the league is I maintain slightly early to be judging the character of any team. No character down at Ayr or at Dundee and definitely devoid of it at Methil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlsarmy Posted September 13, 2018 Report Share Posted September 13, 2018 6 hours ago, Garscube Road End said: When I say off the park it is the tangible evidence of things regressing. Archibald still in a job, when our former CEO stated that they wouldn't wait too long to make hard decisions and yet here we are after relegation and a mediocre start to the season amidst another poor recruitment window we still have the same manager. A new CEO, who was given the job , dare I say it, as an old boys act, a new chairman who we don't hear a pipsqueak from. The two updated from the CEO have been pretty grim and coming away with we have a 7 figure budget to sign quality to win the title. Quite frankly, where is the quality? And then an update after the weekends shameful loss at East Fife said nothing we didn't already know. As for implying that at least the cup wouldn't hamper the league campaign is playing lip service to the Fans. I don't remember in our promotion season our run to the Challenge Cup final hamper us. To use Archie's well worn phrase, It's all about momentum. Absolutely agree with your post , you could probably add on the recruitment of the reserve team which they are absolutely not taking seriously as a pathway to the first team , as regards Gerry Britton I thought he would have been a step up from Maxi who struggled with the Jags lottery ( where did he end up ! ) but seems Gerry’s law degree has come in handy for spinning nonsense about the team and the manager. The supporters aren’t daft . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted September 14, 2018 Report Share Posted September 14, 2018 (edited) 20 hours ago, jlsarmy said: The supporters aren’t daft . Speak for yerself I'm going to Inverness... Edited September 14, 2018 by jagfox 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted September 14, 2018 Report Share Posted September 14, 2018 All this talk of chief executives and fan dissatisfaction made me wonder who is influencing the current board and other entities such as Firhill Developments Ltd which I believe is the Propco? Interesting that Gerry Britton isn't listed as a director of Partick Thistle Ltd whereas Iain Maxwell was. Jacquie Low is chairman. David Kelly secretary, Ian Dodd, Brian Donald, Michael Robertson and Alan Rough seem to be directors of the Football club entity. In terms of the training ground and the 3 Black Cats company Colin Weir is the sole director. The Propco, Firhill Developments Ltd has a few familiar names. Thomas Hughes, William Allan, David Beattie, Ian Dods, Alan Lobban and Gavin Stewart. On the face of thing there is little Propco left on the Football Club board, namely Ian Dodd. The board has certainly seen a lot of changes in the last year or so too. It makes me wonder who influences the board and their decisions? Not in a tin foil hat way but maybe there's been a change in the direction of the exterior influences from the Propco directors to our benefactor Mr Weir? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted September 14, 2018 Report Share Posted September 14, 2018 58 minutes ago, jagfox said: All this talk of chief executives and fan dissatisfaction made me wonder who is influencing the current board and other entities such as Firhill Developments Ltd which I believe is the Propco? Interesting that Gerry Britton isn't listed as a director of Partick Thistle Ltd whereas Iain Maxwell was. Jacquie Low is chairman. David Kelly secretary, Ian Dodd, Brian Donald, Michael Robertson and Alan Rough seem to be directors of the Football club entity. In terms of the training ground and the 3 Black Cats company Colin Weir is the sole director. The Propco, Firhill Developments Ltd has a few familiar names. Thomas Hughes, William Allan, David Beattie, Ian Dods, Alan Lobban and Gavin Stewart. On the face of thing there is little Propco left on the Football Club board, namely Ian Dodd. The board has certainly seen a lot of changes in the last year or so too. It makes me wonder who influences the board and their decisions? Not in a tin foil hat way but maybe there's been a change in the direction of the exterior influences from the Propco directors to our benefactor Mr Weir? Have we not been paying PropCo £50k a year since inception? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted September 14, 2018 Report Share Posted September 14, 2018 41 minutes ago, Norgethistle said: Have we not been paying PropCo £50k a year since inception? I don't think anything has changed in the terms. Firhill Developments Ltd just seem to have a lot less influence on the board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted September 15, 2018 Report Share Posted September 15, 2018 8 hours ago, Norgethistle said: Have we not been paying PropCo £50k a year since inception? Genuine question: Why would we do that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted September 15, 2018 Report Share Posted September 15, 2018 2 hours ago, Jaggernaut said: Genuine question: Why would we do that? I thought that was part of the deal, they paid us a lump sum and till which time the land was sold and redeveloped we paid them an annual fee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted September 15, 2018 Report Share Posted September 15, 2018 12 minutes ago, Norgethistle said: I thought that was part of the deal, they paid us a lump sum and till which time the land was sold and redeveloped we paid them an annual fee So are we in effect "renting" the bing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted September 15, 2018 Report Share Posted September 15, 2018 42 minutes ago, scotty said: So are we in effect "renting" the bing? ...and the main stand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fawlty Towers Posted September 15, 2018 Report Share Posted September 15, 2018 It has bee a while since I thought of the fine detail relating to PropCo but as I recall the investors put in money to obtain the land and once it is sold there will be a split of the money between them with the club getting something as well. A "quick" trawl through this shed some light: https://document-api-images-prod.s3.eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/docs/5TSYcciFpju0AqYMBcJi-82CtqprkJNLqxVI0xxfUEg/application-pdf?X-Amz-Algorithm=AWS4-HMAC-SHA256&X-Amz-Content-Sha256=UNSIGNED-PAYLOAD&X-Amz-Credential=ASIAWRGBDBV3JJTC7WUV%2F20180915%2Feu-west-1%2Fs3%2Faws4_request&X-Amz-Date=20180915T103600Z&X-Amz-Expires=60&X-Amz-Security-Token=FQoGZXIvYXdzEE8aDOa0BRTYhNgk5apc8yK3A%2BCMjUnO%2BkxOG7VF06l4j0CzVsB89oauHEWAmDvMMh06gTJke4ayWpB85e0XRlALiThxO%2FRn2r6K1nksXgOFz5f9WIlCnAles2K26y3gKS4OLEs%2B8%2FNeIIODBdQ%2BL2nyVWCKhA%2FOPKIYlRBe4m8l%2Fc%2F8RADD5YK6Wx1T2RooCFbvg0E6FxR5L1NyuljkFO45dTr4fUi2MqXgqutdfkGAYJlmGn3kLQC4zyzAjmFViS0lvk8Cfv9QsmDa4VPBbPbQkMy%2FBTEa58rb0jdanLMYwYPn6aLd1dBnSZUn%2Flf0T3lq6g%2Bo6nDFuMetW5fF7IfPkYGpbB4sVa720vQJZZ%2FaQksIN6ntHc5RGVBmwAjncDWVdpqkKorGPg5oVjz%2FQOKNx2kl16%2FTjDsXK6uLmno8nSFmXtfWiNKwCbtVWYajaIn8J%2BgleHTMEZaQ0h7lIHKCUhyJnKXI1Nm88PXLoBXGCaOWxv%2FctmvzE4NZaVOeoLjQZ1lzM0ZcpKEIgSQJerq7t%2BLjoxevwWed9qmC56cJ6W1hHA2sQL6jkLhZPDX0wodhQ%2B2WXz3FD4oU12MIhLvKdPgE%2FF4orWgo77by3AU%3D&X-Amz-SignedHeaders=host&X-Amz-Signature=dcb6abc28d061962ae0cf0b92770851aba832596ac33843058a86acb7f24bbb2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted September 15, 2018 Report Share Posted September 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Fawlty Towers said: https://document-api-images-prod.s3.eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/docs/5TSYcciFpju0AqYMBcJi-82CtqprkJNLqxVI0xxfUEg/application-pdf?X-Amz-Algorithm=AWS4-HMAC-SHA256&X-Amz-Content-Sha256=UNSIGNED-PAYLOAD&X-Amz-Credential=ASIAWRGBDBV3JJTC7WUV%2F20180915%2Feu-west-1%2Fs3%2Faws4_request&X-Amz-Date=20180915T103600Z&X-Amz-Expires=60&X-Amz-Security-Token=FQoGZXIvYXdzEE8aDOa0BRTYhNgk5apc8yK3A%2BCMjUnO%2BkxOG7VF06l4j0CzVsB89oauHEWAmDvMMh06gTJke4ayWpB85e0XRlALiThxO%2FRn2r6K1nksXgOFz5f9WIlCnAles2K26y3gKS4OLEs%2B8%2FNeIIODBdQ%2BL2nyVWCKhA%2FOPKIYlRBe4m8l%2Fc%2F8RADD5YK6Wx1T2RooCFbvg0E6FxR5L1NyuljkFO45dTr4fUi2MqXgqutdfkGAYJlmGn3kLQC4zyzAjmFViS0lvk8Cfv9QsmDa4VPBbPbQkMy%2FBTEa58rb0jdanLMYwYPn6aLd1dBnSZUn%2Flf0T3lq6g%2Bo6nDFuMetW5fF7IfPkYGpbB4sVa720vQJZZ%2FaQksIN6ntHc5RGVBmwAjncDWVdpqkKorGPg5oVjz%2FQOKNx2kl16%2FTjDsXK6uLmno8nSFmXtfWiNKwCbtVWYajaIn8J%2BgleHTMEZaQ0h7lIHKCUhyJnKXI1Nm88PXLoBXGCaOWxv%2FctmvzE4NZaVOeoLjQZ1lzM0ZcpKEIgSQJerq7t%2BLjoxevwWed9qmC56cJ6W1hHA2sQL6jkLhZPDX0wodhQ%2B2WXz3FD4oU12MIhLvKdPgE%2FF4orWgo77by3AU%3D&X-Amz-SignedHeaders=host&X-Amz-Signature=dcb6abc28d061962ae0cf0b92770851aba832596ac33843058a86acb7f24bbb2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Col Posted September 15, 2018 Report Share Posted September 15, 2018 Is Gerry in front of the fans at half time with another inspirational speech, and reminding them not to say bad words or shout at the manager? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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