Alan Murray Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 Sure Thistleberight is only passing this information on in good faith but if true then I am sure the board/chair are very unhappy at this getting out. It potentially damages the relationship between manager and chief executive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 1 hour ago, eljaggo said: Can you say who was on the interview panel? Was it the whole board or not? Did Alan Rough take part? Sorry eljaggo. I didn't ask. I'll pop a text off and ask. I'll let you know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaf Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 54 minutes ago, Alan Murray said: Sure Thistleberight is only passing this information on in good faith but if true then I am sure the board/chair are very unhappy at this getting out. It potentially damages the relationship between manager and chief executive. One of my clients once had a crisis. They needed a new management team. They asked me for assistance to filter the CVs. I offered a summary of them. He printed it, and put it in a drawer. He appointed someone that I had not favoured. In the end it transpired, absolutely the right appointment. Once in post, the new MD found my summary! Years later, the management team including said individual bought the company out from my client. Despite mentioning it every time I see him, they then asked me to act for the new business as I had sector knowledge, and they remain my clients (and I would suggest friends) years later. It has never damaged our working relationship in the slightest. It does not have to if people are grown ups about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Col Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 59 minutes ago, Alan Murray said: Sure Thistleberight is only passing this information on in good faith but if true then I am sure the board/chair are very unhappy at this getting out. It potentially damages the relationship between manager and chief executive. We’ll have a club statement by 4pm. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, Big Col said: We’ll have a club statement by 4pm. My only decision there was which emoji I wanted to react with. Laugh or cry. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 Just now, Dark Passenger said: How can you can say they have no direct involvement in (with?) the board if they sat in on a board discussion about a managerial appointment. I suspect you've just ensured they'll never be present during any future discussion of a similar nature. Possibly so. I've no idea who was all there. Just passing on (anonymously of course cos i'm a $h1te bag). Dunno if this person was there represwnting anyone or if he was brought in to assist with the recruitment. I didn't ask, perhaps i should have ahown more intereat but was reeling from the alloa defeat through there at the time. As i went to great lengths to acknowledge in the post, i can't test the verasity DP. My mate is a straight up guy and i believe he believes what he was told. He told me cos he knows i'm a Thistle fan and we were discussing the alloa result and i'd been moaning about GC not being the right appointment. This "discussion" could've been anywhere, all i know is he was present. Doubt it'll make any difference cos i wouldn't think anyone from the club reads our meanderings. Hope they don't cos my typing is really bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 That all said it's now irrelevant. I'll stop gossiping now but i suspect this will have come from various sources. As jaf posted this is common place in other industries. End of the day GB gave his opinion to his Chair as would others on the board and JL made her decision. In a small punative way i took some comfort that a real football guy seems to agree with some posters on here. Also i've no doubts, the little i know of GB he'll be right behind the manager which makes this info irrelevant i guess............i'll get me coat!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dl1971 Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 I don't think there is a story here unless of course the blame game centres on jlow rather than GB..... for those who have been involved in job interviews the chair always has the final say, albeit a compromise view is normally reached. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 2 hours ago, dl1971 said: I don't think there is a story here unless of course the blame game centres on jlow rather than GB..... for those who have been involved in job interviews the chair always has the final say, albeit a compromise view is normally reached. Agreed. Sounds like the person ultimately responsible made the decision, as it should be. The rights and wrongs of how much consensus is required or advice is sought are subjective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 Just now, allyo said: Agreed. Sounds like the person ultimately responsible made the decision, as it should be. The rights and wrongs of how much consensus is required or advice is sought are subjective. Excellent point. I'll stop sh1t stirring now. Three points tomorrow and a long winning run and all will be forgotten Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 One of the main rolls of a manager is to motivate players, listening to all of Caldwell’s interviews he comes across as monotone, flat and very uninspiring, I’m hoping this is just his persona in front of a camera, as if his pre-match and HT talks are in the same tone the players will be half asleep when they go onto the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Passenger Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 We need them to be well fired, not soft. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 23 hours ago, eljaggo said: Can you say who was on the interview panel? Was it the whole board or not? Did Alan Rough take part? Said i'd give you an update eljaggo. I should've asked more questions at the start. The source was NOT at any board meeting/gathering as i'd previously understood/mis-interpreted. This was a one to one conversation with a member of the board. No idea whom but not JL nor GB. The board member stated HIS opinion that they (the board) had got it wrong. That GB, from a footballing perspective (adviser to the board on footballing matters), advised they choose jim mcintyre. JL, as we all know now, chose GC. Mon jags intae this falkirk sheeeeeit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eljaggo Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 Thanks Thistleberight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Jag Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Thistleberight said: Said i'd give you an update eljaggo. I should've asked more questions at the start. The source was NOT at any board meeting/gathering as i'd previously understood/mis-interpreted. This was a one to one conversation with a member of the board. No idea whom but not JL nor GB. The board member stated HIS opinion that they (the board) had got it wrong. That GB, from a footballing perspective (adviser to the board on footballing matters), advised they choose jim mcintyre. JL, as we all know now, chose GC. Mon jags intae this falkirk sheeeeeit Thanks Tb. Mcintyre not done anything great with Dundee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dl1971 Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 5 hours ago, Norgethistle said: One of the main rolls of a manager is to motivate players, listening to all of Caldwell’s interviews he comes across as monotone, flat and very uninspiring, I’m hoping this is just his persona in front of a camera, as if his pre-match and HT talks are in the same tone the players will be half asleep when they go onto the field. Archie style. It's what he does off camera that's important Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 Archie wasn’t exactly mr loud motivator ?! There are different ways to motivate players .... if the manager is quiet but gets results that’s fine by me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 Just now, Auld Jag said: Thanks Tb. Mcintyre not done anything great with Dundee. Yep. He has not. It's academic now but i thought mcintyre a better fit for us. Could have been the case as some managers seem to do well at one or two clubs but bomb when they move to others. I genuinely hope caldwell turns us around i really do. Also mcintyre's dundee career shows that there are not many options among the "tried and tested/experienced" brigade. That said it doesn't mean if he moved to another club he wouldn't enjoy success again. Not saying he is for us!! There must be other up and coming learning their trade managers but you could agrue caldwell fits that profile. Personally, at the time archie left/was sacked i wanted an old experienced manager. Mccall was top of my list and others on here, but we are where we are. I just felt that the downward spiral would be better addessed by an experienced head is all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 Not sure Ian McCall would appreciate being addressed as an old experienced manager............ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandbank boy Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 Will someone correct me if I'm wrong please, or is that 6 points out of 36? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, sandbank boy said: Will someone correct me if I'm wrong please, or is that 6 points out of 36? It's certainly a paucity of wins/points/performances since the famous top six was achieved. Edited January 12, 2019 by Barney Rubble Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semi Nurainen Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 1 win out of 12 games is actually worse than his record at CHesterfield - for which he was sacked. We're going down. Again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackpool Jags Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 Two words: oot and noo. Alternatives? There are none. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy McD Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 If we carry on at this rate we will be lucky to get 10 points from a possible 42 available to the end of the season.......G.C... has got to go now for the good of our club... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alf Stamps Socks Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 On 1/9/2019 at 11:07 AM, javeajag said: Interesting analysis and as you say Archie’s time was up and there are/were deficiencies in the squad but we are where we are we see what the new additions add to the squad but I suspect Caldwell has till the of Feb to turn things round Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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