Guest Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 Just now, lady-isobel-barnett said: One thing that's generally accepted by supporters of all clubs (tho' two sets of fans' opinions are worthless) is that officiating in Scotland is poor. I doubt you'll hear anyone say that "refereeing is hunky dory apart from Andrew Dallas". So GC singling him out ain't too clever. Firstly as one of Dallas's many errors was in not booking Harkins for a bad tackle in the 1st half. Secondly no matter how soft his 2nd yellow was Harkins is experienced enough to know not to give that idiot ref a decision to make, especially in a relatively safe area of the pitch. Thirdly I reckon it's most likely Harkins was due to be subbed. Carrying a yellow should possibly of expedited the substitution. In not doing so Caldwell's decision making could be brought into question tho' he would likely have faith in Harkins's experience not to incur the wrath of Dallas. We should really have been able to see the game out against a poorish side with less than 20 mins to go. Not immediately taking off at least one of the players up front was one of the strangest decisions (or is that non-decisions?) Caldwell has made. Blaming the referee in the manner he did is stupid. Especially when his post Tannadice patter on the same programme was so justifiably ridiculed the week before. Agree somewhat with all you post here LIB, eapecially the OF comment!! Would counter that imo the first yellow card incident harkins got the ball and contact with the man was minimal anf so i agree with GC that the falkirk players were ........at it? Agree completely that harko should've known better and not committed to the 2nd booking tackle AND yes, my main point mirrors yours, that we should have seen the game out. My main thrust was i didn't see much wrong with his interview and liked the general spirit of his content which we could speculate is part of his tactics to seem/come accross as supportive of his players? Can we agree andrew dallas is an outrageously poor ref in a disappointingly poot cadre of refs. Spoke to a few falkirk fans walking back to the car and they were very critical of his performance which for me is a good indication when both sets of fans agree. BTW they believed the penalty shout push from behind was a stonewall penalty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 When I listened to the interview, I was surprised that he didn’t mention the penalty incident as well. It would have backed up his “the ref cost us the game” claim. Secondly, I think he is entitled to ask the reporter what she thought of the refereeing performance. It came across to me that she was trying to get him into bother with the authorities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlgarveJag Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 Agree with Lenziejag here. If the interviewer was so keen to get GC to criticise the ref then why didn't she bring up the blatant push in the back in the box and invite GC to bring the game further into disrepute. 3 times she asked him about refereeing decisions and then whether Harkins sending off had turned the game. The final insult being when she asks if we lost the game because of the referee. Was she even at the game??? I think GC was slow to react to (if not predict the likelihood of) the red card in re-arranging the team and slowing everything down to retain the control we we'd been enjoying. But I felt his pain coming away from those decisions and the result to then have to face moronic questioning live on the radio from a reporter that didn't even know the result of the game. If I paid for a TV licence, I'd refuse to pay for a TV license to those wage thieves at the BBC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That 1 jags fan Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 No matter how this season ends it’s utter misery if we somehow stay up we’ll be stuck with this failure and if we go down we already know the problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Gekantawa Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 15 hours ago, That 1 jags fan said: No matter how this season ends it’s utter misery if we somehow stay up we’ll be stuck with this failure and if we go down we already know the problems. Caldwell was hired on a remit to win promotion (or at the very least be challenging for it). It is the same remit AA was given, and AA's failure to be challenging resulted in his sacking. As such, simply staying up is a failure with respect to the original remit. Staying up by the skin of our teeth should result in immediate dismissal 5 minutes after the season's end. Caldwell's services should only be retained if very real and sustained promotion form is shown between now and the season's end. Even if too late to make the play-offs, at least this would support the argument that he can kick on with his own players. Personally, I'm not optimistic. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Duke Gekantawa said: Caldwell was hired on a remit to win promotion (or at the very least be challenging for it). It is the same remit AA was given, and AA's failure to be challenging resulted in his sacking. As such, simply staying up is a failure with respect to the original remit. Staying up by the skin of our teeth should result in immediate dismissal 5 minutes after the season's end. Caldwell's services should only be retained if very real and sustained promotion form is shown between now and the season's end. Even if too late to make the play-offs, at least this would support the argument that he can kick on with his own players. Personally, I'm not optimistic. I think we will know this by the end of next month Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 Caldwell can go now. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paralytic thistle Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, sandy said: Caldwell can go now. I'm so looking forward to the board giving him the vote of confidence (A.K.A. coup de grâce) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAGSMAN1968 Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 So, who's all going on saturday eh? Have to say that don't think I'll be there. Totally pig sick with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambies Lost Doo Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 Caldwell out. He's killing the team. Alienating the fans. Results terrible. I'm a mild mannered happy clapper season ticket holder but enough is enough. He needs to go now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juanito Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 Dead man walking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westertonjagfan Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 After Squiddy, I'm done with Caldwell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laukat Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 I would suggest you take a look at what Erskine has posted https://twitter.com/17ChrisErskine/status/1085194859399376898 Doesn't sound like he likes the way he's been treated over the last few months Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggydave Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 And the McCarthy and Penrice replies. That dressing room must be a horrible place to be right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackpool Jags Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 (edited) Chris Erskine good enough for a thriving Premiership club, but patently NOT good enough for Caldwell's bottom of the Championship Thistle. This is sickening. Get this bombscare Caldwell TF now! When will the penny drop?? Edited January 15, 2019 by Blackpool Jags 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northjag Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 Caldwell out. I’m never been so annoyed with my club before. What a ludicrous decision. Oh and Jacqui low can go aswell. Got to be some kind of protest on Saturday! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Peebles Tackle Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 I was prepared to give him a chance, even up until today. Not now though. Partick Thistle is more than Chris Erskine, of course it is, but there is a way the club should carry itself & this has fallen well short of my expectations. Caldwell can go. Now. This is crazy, but I actually wouldn’t mind losing on Saturday to force him out the door. I never thought I’d say that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northjag Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 Another utterly stupid decision. It’s not just this decision, things like jagszone charging for match highlights. We are the only club in the league who does this. Madness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 All this adds to the pressure in Caldwell which only good player recruitment and winning will allieve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northjag Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 Everyone cancel their jagszone subscription if they have one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graysie Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 27 minutes ago, Blackpool Jags said: Chris Erskine good enough for a thriving Premiership club, but patently NOT good enough for Caldwell's bottom of the Championship Thistle. This is sickening. Get this bombscare Caldwell TF now! When will the penny drop?? Here here! Shocking treatment of a great club servant who leaves with his head held high. Have a look at Holt's managerial stats versus Caldwell's. Pretty clear who knows what they're doing and who doesn't. The Board have lost the plot and this clown is going to take us down. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Col Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 Can’t wait to see who the replacement for Erskine is...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazy davie Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 How fckn dare that halfwit fckn imposter get rid of a great player and proper Thistle legend. Get to **** Caldwell. Now..!!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackpool Jags Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 14 minutes ago, crazy davie said: How fckn dare that halfwit fckn imposter get rid of a great player and proper Thistle legend. Get to **** Caldwell. Now..!!!! Exactly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyMac Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 I am starting to sense that Gary Caldwell's honeymoon period is drawing to a close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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