Barney Rubble Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 13 minutes ago, allyo said: What I find draining is... - constant criticism of Archibald, who hasn't been our manager for about four months, as if everything is still about him - constant reference to Caldwell's promotion target, which hasn't been realistic for months and is therefore just used as a stick to beat him - any reference to Jackie McNamara, as if he is still relevant - any reference to powerpoint - watching Partick Thistle - Brexit - Dancing on Ice - the 21st century in general I think the board are answerable for the first two points I'm going to take the fifth on point three, because in order not to be overly cryptic, Jackie's template may come in handy next season if we survive this one in the same division. The rest is all down to Dick Campbell in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 Allyo, you missed the Beckhams. Just saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
partickthedog Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 As regards Brexit, at least we can be grateful for Ntexit. And having Cammy Bell as a backstop would have avoided the possibility of a hard border Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westertonjagfan Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 6 hours ago, Jag said: The constant criticism of everything the manager says or does really is draining. It's the same people saying the same thing, over and over again, until Caldwell says or does something else for them to jump on that as well so they can add that to their list. Caldwell has made mistakes, lots of them. His man management is questionable because of results since he took over. The Erskine situation lost him a lot of support and should have been handled better. He has made bad decisions during games that may have cost us points. At least he has had the balls to make decisions though. He inherited a poor group of players with a losing record. He possibly thought he could steady the ship with that group of players but he couldn't. He has now been able to bring in players of his own and, since the turn of the year, performances have improved. Look at the players he has got rid of, or wants to get rid of - Storer, Melbourne, Scobbie, Erskine, Jeffries, Mutombo, Ntambwe, Keown, Bell. Out with Erskine, is anyone going to really make a case for any of the rest staying? He's identified the dross. He dropped the bomb scare of a defender that is McGinty. The players look fitter than they did a few months ago, and we have been able to hold out for results in our three league games since the turn of the year that we may have squandered previously. I get people don't like him and I get that we are in a poor position but the constant harping back to the interview or the SAS day or the player analysis is completely wearing. The guy is doing some things right. Totally agree. Compare yesterday's game to something like the defeat down at Cappielow. Totally different. Credit to Caldwell where it's true. > Look at the players he has got rid of, or wants to get rid of - Storer, Melbourne, Scobbie, Jeffries, Mutombo, Ntambwe, Keown, Bell Exactly. The guys on the pitch yesterday brought in by Caldwell are the opposite of that bunch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinhead Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 It is Caldwells team now, no doubt about it. Up until the window i blamed the dross Archie signed but to Caldwells credit he has got shot of them or almost all of them. If we fail now it is him to blame and nobody else. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Barney Rubble said: I think the board are answerable for the first two points I'm going to take the fifth on point three, because in order not to be overly cryptic, Jackie's template may come in handy next season if we survive this one in the same division. The rest is all down to Dick Campbell in my opinion. Blaming the board for everything. I find that draining too. They're not blameless but they don't pick the team or play football matches.. Sorry, I'm a grumpy bstd tonight. Edited January 27, 2019 by allyo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Jag Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 14 minutes ago, allyo said: Blaming the board for everything. I find that draining too. They're not blameless but they don't pick the team or play football matches.. Sorry, I'm a grumpy bstd tonight. Cheer up allyo. We won yesterday, unbeaten this year. So the roller coaster ride we Thistle supporters share after being on a long downward spiral is on the up again. Until Saturday anyway. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 11 hours ago, Auld Jag said: Cheer up allyo. We won yesterday, unbeaten this year. So the roller coaster ride we Thistle supporters share after being on a long downward spiral is on the up again. Until Saturday anyway. I just used up a like on that Auld Jag. All good, cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 13 hours ago, Barney Rubble said: The rest is all down to Dick Campbell in my opinion. I once, in a drunk state of star struckness, told dick campbell this at a sports dinner where he was speaking. He saw right through it and told me to f@ck off cos he'd "done a job but had been piss"......wee man. A big unit for an old man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb1876 Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 17 hours ago, allyo said: What I find draining is... - constant criticism of Archibald, who hasn't been our manager for about four months, as if everything is still about him - constant reference to Caldwell's promotion target, which hasn't been realistic for months and is therefore just used as a stick to beat him - any reference to Jackie McNamara, as if he is still relevant - any reference to powerpoint - watching Partick Thistle - Brexit - Dancing on Ice - the 21st century in general - and complaining there's not enough likes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Passenger Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 23 hours ago, Legs Like A Spider said: Nobody has got it in for Caldwell. Well that's bullsh*t. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legs Like A Spider Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 18 minutes ago, Dark Passenger said: Well that's bullsh*t. So you think there are partick thistle supporters who would prefer the club to be relegated rather than Caldwell succeed?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Passenger Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 I was addressing the particular point about no-one having it in for Caldwell. That's bullsh*t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KemoAvdiu Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 36 minutes ago, Dark Passenger said: I was addressing the particular point about no-one having it in for Caldwell. That's bullsh*t. Your constant defence of Caldwell is commendable, but nobody has it in for him. People have been unimpressed by him since he took over, but more unimpressed by results which have been rotten. It’s not like people were out to get him before he started, he just hasn’t been particularly impressive and has clearly rubbed a lot of fans up the wrong way. The past few games have seen a big improvement and I am absolutely delighted. If that continues then everyone will be happy. That being said, I don’t see why legitimate scepticism equates to people having it in for him. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 1 hour ago, sb1876 said: - and complaining there's not enough likes! Ha! Fair point. :-) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyMac Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 7 hours ago, Dark Passenger said: I was addressing the particular point about no-one having it in for Caldwell. That's bullsh*t. Fair comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legs Like A Spider Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 8 hours ago, Dark Passenger said: I was addressing the particular point about no-one having it in for Caldwell. That's bullsh*t. Good answer. Why have these people got it in for him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol City Jag Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 There are some striking parallels here with what happened at Bristol City some years back. We were in league one hoping to get back up to the championship but had started the season very poorly under a club 'legend' Brian Tinnion. He left, I think, by mutual consent after a thrashing away at Swansea. The manager who replaced him was Gary Johnson. Initial results and performances were awful. Rumours were rife of dressing room unrest. We were a club seen as a soft touch with players happy to take a good wage to see out their careers and also a culture of going out on the town drinking. Johnson got rid of the deadwood, it was very much his way or the highway. We went on a long winless run stuck in the bottom four with relegation a real possibility. Fans were not impressed. He came over as very sure of his ways which to some appeared arrogant given the results were so poor. However with loan signings complimenting the players who had remained results turned around and we finished the season strongly ending up 9th of 24. The following season we got promoted to the Championship and the season after that lost in the play-off final to Hull. That was the pinnacle of his career at City and his downfall was largely around his apparent difficulty in managing better players egos. A lot of this feels very similar to Caldwell. I've seen some shocking displays and questionable tactics under Caldwell, Morton away being a particular example. I didn't rate him based on these early performances and the jury is still out to a degree. Things have definitely improved though and I'm feeling much more upbeat about our chances of staying up and hopefully the parallels with Bristol City will continue and we'll get promoted next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Jag Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 39 minutes ago, Bristol City Jag said: There are some striking parallels here with what happened at Bristol City some years back. We were in league one hoping to get back up to the championship but had started the season very poorly under a club 'legend' Brian Tinnion. He left, I think, by mutual consent after a thrashing away at Swansea. The manager who replaced him was Gary Johnson. Initial results and performances were awful. Rumours were rife of dressing room unrest. We were a club seen as a soft touch with players happy to take a good wage to see out their careers and also a culture of going out on the town drinking. Johnson got rid of the deadwood, it was very much his way or the highway. We went on a long winless run stuck in the bottom four with relegation a real possibility. Fans were not impressed. He came over as very sure of his ways which to some appeared arrogant given the results were so poor. However with loan signings complimenting the players who had remained results turned around and we finished the season strongly ending up 9th of 24. The following season we got promoted to the Championship and the season after that lost in the play-off final to Hull. That was the pinnacle of his career at City and his downfall was largely around his apparent difficulty in managing better players egos. A lot of this feels very similar to Caldwell. I've seen some shocking displays and questionable tactics under Caldwell, Morton away being a particular example. I didn't rate him based on these early performances and the jury is still out to a degree. Things have definitely improved though and I'm feeling much more upbeat about our chances of staying up and hopefully the parallels with Bristol City will continue and we'll get promoted next season. Glad to see that Bristol City are doing well again over the past few seasons. Lee Johnson the manager(Gary's Son). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garscube Road End Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 Caldwell charged by the SFA on abusive behaviour and comments towards officials. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 4 minutes ago, Garscube Road End said: Caldwell charged by the SFA on abusive behaviour and comments towards officials. Assume it was his comments re Dallas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nohidingplace Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 Probably was the Dallas remarks but he was well due it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westertonjagfan Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 4 hours ago, Garscube Road End said: Caldwell charged by the SFA on abusive behaviour and comments towards officials. I'm starting to warm to him.... 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlgarveJag Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 Dallas brings the game into disrepute every week but he's not been charged 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garscube Road End Posted January 31, 2019 Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 5 hours ago, westertonjagfan said: I'm starting to warm to him.... Yeah. Anyone who upsets the SFA isn't all bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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