sandy Posted May 6, 2019 Report Share Posted May 6, 2019 2 hours ago, Dark Passenger said: Come home Higgy, Higgy come home. He’s well past his best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy Posted May 6, 2019 Report Share Posted May 6, 2019 9 hours ago, ThickAsThieves said: Goalkeepers: Need a solid back-up to Sneddon, who should have a chance to start the season as number one for the first time. Get Bell and Lennox out and see who’s available. Defenders: I’d look to get Jordan McGhee in from Falkirk as our versatile defender (ie. replacement for McMillan) as he’s a decent first choice right-back to compete with Elliott but can play across the backline. Turns 23 in July so no compensation would be due. Retain Anderson or go for O’Dea as our experienced head and run with Anderson/O’Dea, O’Ware, Saunders and McGinty as our CB options. So long Keown. Midfielders: Wouldn’t be against trying to sign up Gordon but expect McCarthy and Spittal to leave so need defensive and attacking replacements. Does Ian McShane have a relegation clause? Michael Tidser? Not sure who else is available. Forwards: Would also think McDonald will be gone, sadly, and with Roy and Coulibaly going and Mansell looking a bit too raw in my opinion, we should look be looking at two strikers minimum coming in - with Doolan retained as back-up - the first time he’d enter a season thought of as such, I believe. Rudden would be a good option. Tony Watt? Connor Sammon? Winger required with Storey surely leaving - Keillor-Dunn at Ross County? Dom Thomas? Or try for a season loan of Mikey Johnston or Glenn Middleton? Not sure how realistic that would be. Would try to keep Cardle but if he leaves then again that’s another body to replace. All names thrown out are lazy suggestions to be fair so to summarise: goalkeeper, 2 defenders (assuming we keep Elliott), 2-3 midfielders, 1-2 wingers, 2 strikers. If you were to keep McMillan, Anderson, Gordon and Cardle that’s just 4-6 new bodies I reckon. Decent analysis GRE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Passenger Posted May 6, 2019 Report Share Posted May 6, 2019 35 minutes ago, Garscube Road End said: At this rate we will have a team on the field in Zimmer frames. Only two of the eleven players contracted for next season are over the age of 30. I don't expect one of them - Bell - to be a Thistle player when the new season kicks off. Oh, and eight members of County's championship-winning squad were 30+, with two of them being named in the PFA Scotland team of the year. You knew all of that, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordanhill Jag Posted May 6, 2019 Report Share Posted May 6, 2019 On 5/5/2019 at 11:04 AM, Z88 said: One big issue next season will be the loss of money from the parachute payment. £600k this season down to £300k next. Unless the Board can find a easy to replace that then I think our scope for decent signings is very limited. Withnthe EUFA Money it was over £900K down to £250K this Season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garscube Road End Posted May 6, 2019 Report Share Posted May 6, 2019 2 hours ago, Dark Passenger said: Only two of the eleven players contracted for next season are over the age of 30. I don't expect one of them - Bell - to be a Thistle player when the new season kicks off. Oh, and eight members of County's championship-winning squad were 30+, with two of them being named in the PFA Scotland team of the year. You knew all of that, right? Jesus wept. Lol. Lighten up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted May 6, 2019 Report Share Posted May 6, 2019 10 hours ago, jaf said: Or Ayr's replacement for Shankland. Who’s he supposed to be signing for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashman Posted May 6, 2019 Report Share Posted May 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Third Lanark said: Who’s he supposed to be signing for? Swansea I think. Potentially signed a pre-contract. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted May 6, 2019 Report Share Posted May 6, 2019 Doolan's an interesting one. He's not old and he's the type of smart player who could play on to a decent age. i have a bit of a theory that last year's relegation may have most greatly affected those with the longest standing Thistle connections. Archie (and maybe Shaggy) had lost it really, Christie Elliot was awful (and was the captain), Erskine pretty lacklustre and Doolan hasn't been himself all season. Thistle wasn't a happy place. Elliott came back, and maybe Caldwell felt that moving Erskine out was needed to lift the place with new faces. But Doolan saw the season out and, Morton aside, he never really looked himself. But I'm sure a happy, confident Kris Doolan could still be a top striker in this league. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Passenger Posted May 7, 2019 Report Share Posted May 7, 2019 McDonald's returning to Australia to sign for Western United. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elevenone Posted May 7, 2019 Report Share Posted May 7, 2019 Relegation may not be a worry next season. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48179898 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebiglemon Posted May 7, 2019 Report Share Posted May 7, 2019 No relegation sucks Watch attendances plummet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westertonjagfan Posted May 7, 2019 Report Share Posted May 7, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Dark Passenger said: McDonald's returning to Australia to sign for Western United. Have been hearing that on the rumour mill too. Pishing rain in Maryhill or sunshine in Australia-what's he thinking of? Maryhill every time. Edited May 7, 2019 by westertonjagfan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westertonjagfan Posted May 7, 2019 Report Share Posted May 7, 2019 18 hours ago, allyo said: Doolan's an interesting one. He's not old and he's the type of smart player who could play on to a decent age. i have a bit of a theory that last year's relegation may have most greatly affected those with the longest standing Thistle connections. Archie (and maybe Shaggy) had lost it really, Christie Elliot was awful (and was the captain), Erskine pretty lacklustre and Doolan hasn't been himself all season. Thistle wasn't a happy place. Elliott came back, and maybe Caldwell felt that moving Erskine out was needed to lift the place with new faces. But Doolan saw the season out and, Morton aside, he never really looked himself. But I'm sure a happy, confident Kris Doolan could still be a top striker in this league. I think there might be something in that theory....interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy Posted May 7, 2019 Report Share Posted May 7, 2019 22 hours ago, allyo said: Doolan's an interesting one. He's not old and he's the type of smart player who could play on to a decent age. i have a bit of a theory that last year's relegation may have most greatly affected those with the longest standing Thistle connections. Archie (and maybe Shaggy) had lost it really, Christie Elliot was awful (and was the captain), Erskine pretty lacklustre and Doolan hasn't been himself all season. Thistle wasn't a happy place. Elliott came back, and maybe Caldwell felt that moving Erskine out was needed to lift the place with new faces. But Doolan saw the season out and, Morton aside, he never really looked himself. But I'm sure a happy, confident Kris Doolan could still be a top striker in this league. Just say Caldwell bins Dools now. In his testimonial year. Having binned Erskine. Could we forgive him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThickAsThieves Posted May 7, 2019 Report Share Posted May 7, 2019 Of course. Doolan is a Thistle legend but no one’s bigger than the club. He’s had a poor season. I still think he’s worth keeping but if Caldwell doesn’t think so he should be able to make that decision. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted May 7, 2019 Report Share Posted May 7, 2019 37 minutes ago, sandy said: Just say Caldwell bins Dools now. In his testimonial year. Having binned Erskine. Could we forgive him? Considering we got McDonald for erskine he probably got right though I didn’t want erskine to leave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted May 7, 2019 Report Share Posted May 7, 2019 Agree. I reckon the spirit about the club was such that too much sentiment could have got us relegated this season. I hope Doolan stays, but only because the manager thinks he's an asset. Anything else would be an insult to Kris Doolan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That 1 jags fan Posted May 7, 2019 Report Share Posted May 7, 2019 (edited) If Doolan was’t a club legend not one of us would want him to stay. But maybe with better players me might score more I’m 50/50 on him. Edited May 7, 2019 by That 1 jags fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted May 7, 2019 Report Share Posted May 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, That 1 jags fan said: If Doolan was’t a club legend not one of us would want him to stay. But maybe with better players me might score more I’m 50/50 on him. I'd turn that around a bit. We might not want him to stay based on last season. But the argument for him staying is based on previous performances, the knowledge that he is an intelligent and effective player who looks after himself and therefore really should be able to be an important player. Not legendary status. But I really think it's all about psychology. The manager, and Kris Doolan himself, will know better than any of us whether he should stay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodstock Jag Posted May 7, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Third Lanark said: Considering we got McDonald for erskine he probably got right though I didn’t want erskine to leave I don’t think that’s right. McDonald, Roy and Mansell were essentially replacing Quitongo and Mutombo (and in all but formally, Coulibaly). Harkins was essentially replacing Ntambwe/Storer. Anderson was replacing Keown. Saunders was replacing Scobie. McMillan was replacing Melbourne. Hazard was replacing Bell. The equivalent replacement for Erskine was surely Cardle. Now Cardle has done a decent job since signing, but I think you’re misleading if you’re comparing directly Erskine and McDonald as one-in-one-out. Edited May 7, 2019 by Woodstock Jag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy Posted May 8, 2019 Report Share Posted May 8, 2019 1 hour ago, allyo said: Agree. I reckon the spirit about the club was such that too much sentiment could have got us relegated this season. I hope Doolan stays, but only because the manager thinks he's an asset. Anything else would be an insult to Kris Doolan. Well, the ‘anything else’ might be the outcome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laukat Posted May 8, 2019 Report Share Posted May 8, 2019 If you look at the players under contract into next season we might not be far away from having a decent starting 11 which would look something like this: Sneddon Saunders O'Ware McGinty Penrice Fitzpatrick Slater Harkins Bannigan New Signing New Signing I would expect us to have a total squad size of around 18- 20 so that leaves at least 8 to 10 players to be signed. It would be surprising if Doolan wasn't one of the strikers and hopefully Cardle signs for another year. I can't see much value in another central defender with Saunders, O'Ware, McGinty able to play there and when we have Penrice and Harkins able to fill in there for emergencies. So in my opinion we definetly need a right back, left back cover for Penrice, centre defensive midfielder, 2 wide midfielders, 2 strikers (one of which a target man). The remaining places in the squad should be younger cheaper players. If Bell leaves then we need another keeper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garscube Road End Posted May 8, 2019 Report Share Posted May 8, 2019 56 minutes ago, laukat said: If you look at the players under contract into next season we might not be far away from having a decent starting 11 which would look something like this: Sneddon Saunders O'Ware McGinty Penrice Fitzpatrick Slater Harkins Bannigan New Signing New Signing I would expect us to have a total squad size of around 18- 20 so that leaves at least 8 to 10 players to be signed. It would be surprising if Doolan wasn't one of the strikers and hopefully Cardle signs for another year. I can't see much value in another central defender with Saunders, O'Ware, McGinty able to play there and when we have Penrice and Harkins able to fill in there for emergencies. So in my opinion we definetly need a right back, left back cover for Penrice, centre defensive midfielder, 2 wide midfielders, 2 strikers (one of which a target man). The remaining places in the squad should be younger cheaper players. If Bell leaves then we need another keeper. I never knew we signed the twins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laukat Posted May 8, 2019 Report Share Posted May 8, 2019 18 minutes ago, Garscube Road End said: I never knew we signed the twins. Despite being unknowns and never having put on a Thistle jersey they have still contributed more to Thistle than Miles Storey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted May 8, 2019 Report Share Posted May 8, 2019 10 hours ago, sandy said: Well, the ‘anything else’ might be the outcome By "anything else" I mean keeping him for sentimental reasons. I'm pretty sure Caldwell wouldn't do that, as he demonstrated with Chris Erskine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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