dl1971 Posted May 11, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2019 2 hours ago, sandy said: Nae hiding necessary, I’ve seen him face-to-face 3 times mate! Well you have another opportunity to espouse your views again rather than on this forum. A opportunity to show off your wit and knowledge? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dl1971 Posted May 11, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2019 1 hour ago, jlsarmy said: Just find it pretty strange after the relationship that Doolan had with guys like Britton over a long period of time and the nonsense that Jaqui Low said privately and also publicly at Kris’s Hall of Fame dinner . Brittons and Low’s silence is deafening, the meet the manager is just a damage limitation excercise . Why would you have a meet the manager night 10 days after the season finished , at this point there is no season tickets on sale , no new signings. Are we going there to thank Gary for keeping us up . PR bullshit Go and call him out then. You are vehemently against him so go and articulate your thoughts. Who knows you might end up with the truth. Easiest thing in the world to slaughter someone on social media. A tad more difficult face to face..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlsarmy Posted May 11, 2019 Report Share Posted May 11, 2019 13 minutes ago, dl1971 said: Go and call him out then. You are vehemently against him so go and articulate your thoughts. Who knows you might end up with the truth. Easiest thing in the world to slaughter someone on social media. A tad more difficult face to face..... Who Gerry Britton, Caldwell or Jaquie Low ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dl1971 Posted May 11, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2019 Caldwell. But fill your boots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordanhill Jag Posted May 11, 2019 Report Share Posted May 11, 2019 (edited) 32 minutes ago, dl1971 said: Go and call him out then. You are vehemently against him so go and articulate your thoughts. Who knows you might end up with the truth. Easiest thing in the world to slaughter someone on social media. A tad more difficult face to face..... Ok - at the AGM I asked a specific question about how we could afford to fund the Running Costs of New Training Ground - the response I was given was a vague- it was still being discussed - and I was given assurances it wouldn't be to the detriment of Partick Thisle plus no more than we were paying just now - which all sounds good - only problem is - still dont know how we can afford paying for a large Training Complex Running Costs - so what you are likely to get is warm cosy words - its not a matter of JLS not being willing to face them up - he is on the Trust Board so sees the Club Board more than most of us - its a case of are you going to get any real answers ? Edited May 11, 2019 by Jordanhill Jag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted May 11, 2019 Report Share Posted May 11, 2019 13 minutes ago, Jordanhill Jag said: Ok - at the AGM I asked a specific question about how we could afford to fund the Running Costs of New Training Ground - the response I was given was a vague- it was still being discussed - and I was given assurances it wouldn't be to the detriment of Partick Thisle plus no more than we were paying just now - which all sounds good - only problem is - still dont know how we can afford paying for a large Training Complex Running Costs - so what you are likely to get is warm cosy words - its not a matter of JLS not being willing to face them up - he is on the Trust Board so sees the Club Board more than most of us - its a case of are you going to get any real answers ? To be fair doubt Caldwell is the person with all the knowledge of the training ground - more likely to be the board members etc who deal with that side of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlsarmy Posted May 11, 2019 Report Share Posted May 11, 2019 46 minutes ago, dl1971 said: Go and call him out then. You are vehemently against him so go and articulate your thoughts. Who knows you might end up with the truth. Easiest thing in the world to slaughter someone on social media. A tad more difficult face to face..... If you read the posts , I’m just as critical of Gerry Britton and Jaqui Low , to balance things up I’ll take on board that Caldwell is just in the door at our Club , has no affiliation to us and probably didn’t know the backlash he was going to get or doesn’t care if you give someone like Kris Doolan 1 hours notice he had lost both jobs at PTFC player and U18s coach after 10 years service at PTFC If you think that’s the way you treat people in what is being thrown about as a “ Family Club “ “Community Club “ then we’re in trouble. Totally get the bit that Caldwell should be in charge of the team albeit I think he should have a remit . Interesting article in the newspaper today with Steven Mcclean of Hearts saying he was helping some of the strikers with his experience on and off the park , Kris Doolan was already doing that within the club and his coaching at U18s as I’ve been told by my nephew was second to none and he had been at Celtic for 4 years ( coached by Michael O’halloran ) If you don’t think Kris was an asset to our Club as either a player, coach or even an ambassador to our Club to get more people on board that’s absolutely fine. You’re entitled to your opinion , just think mine might be a bit different to yours . 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClydebankJag Posted May 11, 2019 Report Share Posted May 11, 2019 He’s unlikely to tell us specifically who he is targeting and likewise he is unlikely to break confidence and share his true thoughts about the players that have left the club. So what you will get is a night of discussion about his ‘philosophy’ and his intent for the direction of the club - wee spoiler it will be to sign players with the ‘right character’ and to get us back to ‘where we belong’. Being realistic can anyone see it being anything else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dl1971 Posted May 11, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2019 1 hour ago, jlsarmy said: If you read the posts , I’m just as critical of Gerry Britton and Jaqui Low , to balance things up I’ll take on board that Caldwell is just in the door at our Club , has no affiliation to us and probably didn’t know the backlash he was going to get or doesn’t care if you give someone like Kris Doolan 1 hours notice he had lost both jobs at PTFC player and U18s coach after 10 years service at PTFC If you think that’s the way you treat people in what is being thrown about as a “ Family Club “ “Community Club “ then we’re in trouble. Totally get the bit that Caldwell should be in charge of the team albeit I think he should have a remit . Interesting article in the newspaper today with Steven Mcclean of Hearts saying he was helping some of the strikers with his experience on and off the park , Kris Doolan was already doing that within the club and his coaching at U18s as I’ve been told by my nephew was second to none and he had been at Celtic for 4 years ( coached by Michael O’halloran ) If you don’t think Kris was an asset to our Club as either a player, coach or even an ambassador to our Club to get more people on board that’s absolutely fine. You’re entitled to your opinion , just think mine might be a bit different to yours . I think Kris was undoubtedly an asset to the club across a range of issues. I'm also not particularly enamoured on how he left albeit I don't have all the facts. Which is why I'm suggesting asking him direct how it was handled. If people don't want to confront...if that's the right word I personally think that shows a lack of bravery. I'm sure someone will ask him about Doolan. Someone should. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dl1971 Posted May 11, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2019 Question. Would Kris have stayed just in a coaching role with no prospect of playing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted May 11, 2019 Report Share Posted May 11, 2019 5 hours ago, sandy said: Nae hiding necessary, I’ve seen him face-to-face 3 times mate! Did you ask him any hard questions, though ? Did you tell him how you feel ? If so what did he say ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordanhill Jag Posted May 11, 2019 Report Share Posted May 11, 2019 19 minutes ago, dl1971 said: I think Kris was undoubtedly an asset to the club across a range of issues. I'm also not particularly enamoured on how he left albeit I don't have all the facts. Which is why I'm suggesting asking him direct how it was handled. If people don't want to confront...if that's the right word I personally think that shows a lack of bravery. I'm sure someone will ask him about Doolan. Someone should. You also have to factor in Work Commitments or distance plus short notice means that not everyone can make the Meet the Manager Night - so its a quantum leap to equate it lack of bravery - I think like all of these things it will be a PR Whitewash and he will through up lots of stats - like "do you know how many shots at Goal we had in the last 10 Games " as he did last time - the bottom line is a large part of the Support are not convinced on him or the Board and the "New Direction" thats a problem as we have few enough Fans as it is ... So they can PR until the Cows come home - to date they have not delivered anything of note on the park or off it - thats the measure - lots of Press Interviews doesn't change that pertinent fact - my view is GC got lucky with Mcdonald - no one could have seen how well he adapted after a Two Year Lay off - No one - so Mcdonald was the key - can he repeat it with Boyd - who knows but its not exactly "a New Direction" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted May 11, 2019 Report Share Posted May 11, 2019 5 hours ago, lady-isobel-barnett said: I'll move on and get behind it when I'm satisfied that the complete overhaul is in the right hands. I'll shelve my cynicism for the time being, starting with this meet the manager night. I agree with this. There is more to a football club than success. There is also a culture that goes along with it. Caldwell has said that he is here to be successful and if he isn’t he will lose his job. However, the way it is done could damage the club for some time. It seems to me though that the change is being allowed by those at the top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordanhill Jag Posted May 11, 2019 Report Share Posted May 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Third Lanark said: To be fair doubt Caldwell is the person with all the knowledge of the training ground - more likely to be the board members etc who deal with that side of it Mat - it was an example of how even if you ask a straight question face to face - your unlikely to get a proper answer - I agree Mcdonald has no knowledge of the Training Ground - its a bit like the lost Holy Grail - will it ever be found Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted May 11, 2019 Report Share Posted May 11, 2019 2 hours ago, Jordanhill Jag said: Ok - at the AGM I asked a specific question about how we could afford to fund the Running Costs of New Training Ground - the response I was given was a vague- it was still being discussed - and I was given assurances it wouldn't be to the detriment of Partick Thisle plus no more than we were paying just now - which all sounds good - only problem is - still dont know how we can afford paying for a large Training Complex Running Costs - so what you are likely to get is warm cosy words - its not a matter of JLS not being willing to face them up - he is on the Trust Board so sees the Club Board more than most of us - its a case of are you going to get any real answers ? Just keep asking the questions until you get the answer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordanhill Jag Posted May 11, 2019 Report Share Posted May 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Lenziejag said: Just keep asking the questions until you get the answer They quickly move onto someone else - they know how to manage awkward questions - be vague - move on quickly to something else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dl1971 Posted May 11, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Jordanhill Jag said: You also have to factor in Work Commitments or distance plus short notice means that not everyone can make the Meet the Manager Night - so its a quantum leap to equate it lack of bravery - I think like all of these things it will be a PR Whitewash and he will through up lots of stats - like "do you know how many shots at Goal we had in the last 10 Games " as he did last time - the bottom line is a large part of the Support are not convinced on him or the Board and the "New Direction" thats a problem as we have few enough Fans as it is ... So they can PR until the Cows come home - to date they have not delivered anything of note on the park or off it - thats the measure - lots of Press Interviews doesn't change that pertinent fact - my view is GC got lucky with Mcdonald - no one could have seen how well he adapted after a Two Year Lay off - No one - so Mcdonald was the key - can he repeat it with Boyd - who knows but its not exactly "a New Direction" Excuses excuses. I'll predict none of the Caldwell liberation front will be at the meeting. Or am I mistaken? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy Posted May 11, 2019 Report Share Posted May 11, 2019 7 minutes ago, dl1971 said: Excuses excuses. I'll predict none of the Caldwell liberation front will be at the meeting. Or am I mistaken? Labels, labels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted May 11, 2019 Report Share Posted May 11, 2019 12 minutes ago, sandy said: Labels, labels. Fanbois being one of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy Posted May 11, 2019 Report Share Posted May 11, 2019 12 minutes ago, Third Lanark said: Fanbois being one of them Immortalised in Semi Nurainen’s prose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted May 11, 2019 Report Share Posted May 11, 2019 1 minute ago, sandy said: Immortalised in Semi Nurainen’s prose. And more so in loads of your posts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy Posted May 11, 2019 Report Share Posted May 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Third Lanark said: And more so in loads of your posts I’ve got to go and watch paint dry now, enjoy your evening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted May 11, 2019 Report Share Posted May 11, 2019 16 minutes ago, sandy said: I’ve got to go and watch paint dry now, enjoy your evening. Is it sandy coloured Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlsarmy Posted May 11, 2019 Report Share Posted May 11, 2019 3 hours ago, dl1971 said: I think Kris was undoubtedly an asset to the club across a range of issues. I'm also not particularly enamoured on how he left albeit I don't have all the facts. Which is why I'm suggesting asking him direct how it was handled. If people don't want to confront...if that's the right word I personally think that shows a lack of bravery. I'm sure someone will ask him about Doolan. Someone should. Not sure why the supporters have to be brave , surely the facts should be out there already through Jaqui Low and Gerry Britton instead of going to a Caldwell damage limitation exercise to try and prise out details of Doolans departure Because their silence is deafening, you can probably come to the assumption that they’re embarrassed how they’ve ballsed up , not sure why the supporters have to piece this together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dl1971 Posted May 11, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, jlsarmy said: Not sure why the supporters have to be brave , surely the facts should be out there already through Jaqui Low and Gerry Britton instead of going to a Caldwell damage limitation exercise to try and prise out details of Doolans departure Because their silence is deafening, you can probably come to the assumption that they’re embarrassed how they’ve ballsed up , not sure why the supporters have to piece this together. It's pretty simple. The meet the manager evening is an opportunity to challenge GC on issues you see fit. If you don't take the opportunity to put your concerns directly to the man concerned it seems to me that you don't have real confidence in your viewpoint. It's like moaning about an election result when you don't actually vote. It also smacks of a closed mind. How can you say their silence is deafening when you have the opportunity to hear the spoken word? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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