New Owner

[Dick Dastardly]

23 minutes ago, Lenziejag said:

Who are we - we the supporters ? Do we have any say in this ?

"We" was probably the wrong word. I meant the current "Thistle Minded" shareholders (of which I am not one)

[jagfox]

52 minutes ago, Lenziejag said:

Who are we - we the supporters ? Do we have any say in this ?

Only if you have over 5% of shares apparently...

Oh we do have two supporter trusts who do diddly squat effectively.

A seemingly fractured support desperate for success and little faith in the current board.

Former board members wanting a return on their investment.

So basically no. We're ripe for being taken over and what that results in...

[javeajag]

Just now, jagfox said:

Only if you have over 5% of shares apparently...

Oh we do have two supporter trusts who do diddly squat effectively.

A seemingly fractured support desperate for success and little faith in the current board.

Former board members wanting a return on their investment.

So basically no. We're ripe for being taken over and what that results in...

And it may turn out to be a good thing you never know 

[jagfox]

6 minutes ago, javeajag said:

And it may turn out to be a good thing you never know 

I'm still hopeful but the point raised was do we have any say about it? I don't think we do as things stand.

[javeajag]

3 minutes ago, jagfox said:

I'm still hopeful but the point raised was do we have any say about it? I don't think we do as things stand.

No.....and we never have had so no change 

[jagfox]

6 minutes ago, javeajag said:

No.....and we never have had so no change 

I know. That's why I said it...

I wish they would just hurry up either way lol

 

[javeajag]

18 minutes ago, jagfox said:

I know. That's why I said it...

I wish they would just hurry up either way lol

 

That we agree on 

[jlsarmy]

3 hours ago, Jordanhill Jag said:

Thats a fair point and one I cant answer - but to get a return-  means they have to have success on the park I would suggest ? 

And if they don’t? 

[jagfox]

5 minutes ago, javeajag said:

That we agree on 

I didn't know we were disagreeing? 

[lady-isobel-barnett]

Maybe it's no us and it's Maryhill Juniors they've been looking at?

[Jordanhill Jag]

Just now, jlsarmy said:

And if they don’t? 

They sell onto someone else - we are in no different a position than we are now - we have no say on who we are sold to 

[javeajag]

1 minute ago, jagfox said:

I didn't know we were disagreeing? 

Me neither !

[stolenscone]

3 hours ago, AndyMac said:

Spot on.

They will pick up Firhill for a song. It will be like taking candy off a baby.

Andy - I have no axe to grind and have no inside knowledge, but purely from a property perspective, the land really isn’t easily developable, nor is it located in a particularly desirable area. If a property developer had cash to spend and this was really only about the land, then there are dozens of better, cheaper and easier sites to pick.

I said in my earlier post, I really can’t fathom why a wealthy overseas investor would be interested. Some have said it’s to assist in building a stable of feeder clubs to bring through players for sale, but I can’t see why Scotland (where decent fees are a rarity) or why PTFC, which is languishing in the second tier. I would have thought that there are other more attractive options which would be higher profile and not cost any more to buy.

Others seem to know more than I do,  so I’l wait to see what happens, but if it really is all about the land, then they are completely clueless when it comes to property development.

 

[jlsarmy]

2 hours ago, javeajag said:

All your doing is speculating whilst ignoring any facts .... I keep telling you the land  isn’t worth much and you ignore that and now suggest student flats .... weeks after planners vowed to cut back on .... yes student flats

abd before you start building you have to demolish a stadium, fix the drainage problems and prepare the site for what ? To make very little money 

 

Do you have any reservations at all about this deal , can’t think of 1 foreign investor in Scottish football who has been a  success . 

[javeajag]

1 minute ago, jlsarmy said:

Do you have any reservations at all about this deal , can’t think of 1 foreign investor in Scottish football who has been a  success . 

Fergus McCann Canadian 

 

[javeajag]

5 minutes ago, stolenscone said:

Andy - I have no axe to grind and have no inside knowledge, but purely from a property perspective, the land really isn’t easily developable, nor is it located in a particularly desirable area. If a property developer had cash to spend and this was really only about the land, then there are dozens of better, cheaper and easier sites to pick.

I said in my earlier post, I really can’t fathom why a wealthy overseas investor would be interested. Some have said it’s to assist in building a stable of feeder clubs to bring through players for sale, but I can’t see why Scotland (where decent fees are a rarity) or why PTFC, which is languishing in the second tier. I would have thought that there are other more attractive options which would be higher profile and not cost any more to buy.

Others seem to know more than I do,  so I’l wait to see what happens, but if it really is all about the land, then they are completely clueless when it comes to property development.

 

This deal has got nothing to with property you are spot on 

[jlsarmy]

4 minutes ago, Jordanhill Jag said:

They sell onto someone else - we are in no different a position than we are now - we have no say on who we are sold to 

Sorry JJ , for the life of me I can’t see where they make any money, at our level most of the to ing and fro ing is free transfers, freedom of contract

 Can’t even remember at our level just now , anyone getting bought or sold for decent money.

[jlsarmy]

4 minutes ago, javeajag said:

Fergus McCann Canadian 

 

He’s actually Scottish but was based in Canada 

[javeajag]

3 minutes ago, jlsarmy said:

He’s actually Scottish but was based in Canada 

Dermott Desmond 

[jlsarmy]

Just now, javeajag said:

Dermott Desmond 

Yea great Irish Celtic supporter , is that your best ?

[javeajag]

Just now, jlsarmy said:

Yea great Irish Celtic supporter , is that your best ?

I don’t really care tbh I don’t see the relevance .... the number of shit Scottish owners of Scottish football clubs tells you all you need to know 

[jagfox]

12 minutes ago, jlsarmy said:

Sorry JJ , for the life of me I can’t see where they make any money, at our level most of the to ing and fro ing is free transfers, freedom of contract

 Can’t even remember at our level just now , anyone getting bought or sold for decent money.

Liam Lindasy and probably Aidan Fitzpatrick heading down south for over £1,000,000. 

Player development then move them up the ladder.

 

[mad-jag]

21 minutes ago, stolenscone said:

Andy - I have no axe to grind and have no inside knowledge, but purely from a property perspective, the land really isn’t easily developable, nor is it located in a particularly desirable area. If a property developer had cash to spend and this was really only about the land, then there are dozens of better, cheaper and easier sites to pick.

I said in my earlier post, I really can’t fathom why a wealthy overseas investor would be interested. Some have said it’s to assist in building a stable of feeder clubs to bring through players for sale, but I can’t see why Scotland (where decent fees are a rarity) or why PTFC, which is languishing in the second tier. I would have thought that there are other more attractive options which would be higher profile and not cost any more to buy.

Others seem to know more than I do,  so I’l wait to see what happens, but if it really is all about the land, then they are completely clueless when it comes to property development.

 

I agree with pretty much all of what you say. 

The only reason I can think of, and it’s a bit of a long shot, is that they think the Scottish market is undervalued.

I think the model would have to be that we hoover up the best young Scottish talent we can, the best get sold on to Barnsley and they hope to make a profit from selling on in an inflated English market. They will be hoping for another Andy Robertson/Kieran Tierney. They are more likely to get anothe Liam Lindsay if they are lucky. 

That is the only possible reason I can think of for all of this, if it is even true in the first place. 

[jlsarmy]

Just now, jagfox said:

Liam Lindasy and probably Aidan Fitzpatrick heading down south for over £1,000,000. 

Player development then move them up the ladder.

 

First of all , we were in the Premier League when we sold Liam Lindsay, maybe young Aidan will go for big money but he’s been developed at PTFC since he was 11 yrs of age .

I’ll as you the same question as I asked JJ , where do these guys make their money , as we play in a league of free transfers and out of contract players , when was the last time there was any transfer fees at all in our League.

 

[Garscube Road End]

1 minute ago, jlsarmy said:

First of all , we were in the Premier League when we sold Liam Lindsay, maybe young Aidan will go for big money but he’s been developed at PTFC since he was 11 yrs of age .

I’ll as you the same question as I asked JJ , where do these guys make their money , as we play in a league of free transfers and out of contract players , when was the last time there was any transfer fees at all in our League.

 

Dundee Utd paid for Peter Pawlett