QXBoy Posted July 25, 2019 Report Share Posted July 25, 2019 Despite winning our group, at this time it looks like we won't be seeded meaning the possibility of drawing Ce*%$& or Sevco or Ab$&*^&%. Who do we want? Maybe Kilmarnock? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semi Nurainen Posted July 25, 2019 Report Share Posted July 25, 2019 Would be happy with any SPL team - perhaps especially the ugly sisters - would be a great test for us. If I was being cynical, Hibs of Livi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 25, 2019 Report Share Posted July 25, 2019 7 hours ago, QXBoy said: Despite winning our group, at this time it looks like we won't be seeded meaning the possibility of drawing Ce*%$& or Sevco or Ab$&*^&%. Who do we want? Maybe Kilmarnock? I'd take killie in a heartbeat. A shadow of the team if last year? Perhaps not but they bring a decent away support and would be a great test so I'd take a home tie against them or any other premier team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted July 25, 2019 Report Share Posted July 25, 2019 Home tie against Killie? I'm not sure we won one in 5 years in the Premier League, often against a rubbish Killie team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandbank boy Posted July 25, 2019 Report Share Posted July 25, 2019 One of the ugly sisters away please, for obvious reasons. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted July 25, 2019 Report Share Posted July 25, 2019 The easiest tie we can get. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roque Posted July 25, 2019 Report Share Posted July 25, 2019 4 hours ago, allyo said: Home tie against Killie? I'm not sure we won one in 5 years in the Premier League, often against a rubbish Killie team. 6 draws and 3 defeats in 9 Firhill games against Kilmarnock in our 5 seasons in the top flight. Compare and contrast with 3 wins, 3 draws and 3 defeats at Rugby Park. Embarrassing home record against them, which hopefully unlike the away record at Motherwell, doesn't develop into this kind of curse that we can't break. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted July 25, 2019 Report Share Posted July 25, 2019 I'd take Hamilton at home for a place in the quarter finals (assuming they qualify they will be seeded). We can beat them at home, then line up the Ugly Sisters for a place in the semis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgow Posted July 25, 2019 Report Share Posted July 25, 2019 11 minutes ago, Dick Dastardly said: I'd take Hamilton at home for a place in the quarter finals (assuming they qualify they will be seeded). We can beat them at home, then line up the Ugly Sisters for a place in the semis Think seeds are the 4 Euro teams and the four best group winners. So Hamilton can’t be seeded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted July 25, 2019 Report Share Posted July 25, 2019 Richard Gordon totally wrote off our chances of being seeded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted July 25, 2019 Report Share Posted July 25, 2019 (edited) I thought the seedlings were based on league positions irrespective of how they qualified If it was on group qualifying performance we would be guaranteed a seed Edited July 25, 2019 by Dick Dastardly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roque Posted July 25, 2019 Report Share Posted July 25, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Dick Dastardly said: I thought the seedlings were based on league positions irrespective of how they qualified If it was on group qualifying performance we would be guaranteed a seed They are based on League Cup group positions, but we're not guaranteed through that method. Celtic, Rangers, Kilmarnock and Aberdeen will be seeded as the European participants, as will the four group winners with the highest points totals. Currently the group winners and their points totals are: County 12 pts (+10 GD) Thistle 10 (+3) Motherwell 9 (+9) Hibs 8 (+5) Hearts 8 (+3) Livingston 8 (+2) Inverness 7 (+4) St Mirren 7 (0) However, only County, ourselves and St Mirren have played 4 games. Hearts, Hibs, Inverness, Motherwell and Livingston all have a final group game to play, and each one of them who wins will move us down a place. So we need less than 3 of that 5 to win their final games, which I'd say is pretty unlikely. Edited July 25, 2019 by Roque Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClydebankJag Posted July 25, 2019 Report Share Posted July 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Dick Dastardly said: I'd take Hamilton at home for a place in the quarter finals (assuming they qualify they will be seeded). We can beat them at home, then line up the Ugly Sisters for a place in the semis 1 hour ago, Dick Dastardly said: I thought the seedlings were based on league positions irrespective of how they qualified If it was on group qualifying performance we would be guaranteed a seed Haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roque Posted July 25, 2019 Report Share Posted July 25, 2019 (edited) I misunderstood what DD meant by "league positions", assuming it to be about the group positions in the League Cup! Have edited that part of the post to be clearer. Edited July 25, 2019 by Roque Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 25, 2019 Report Share Posted July 25, 2019 10 hours ago, allyo said: Home tie against Killie? I'm not sure we won one in 5 years in the Premier League, often against a rubbish Killie team. Time to right a wrong? Repeat of the 2-5 drubbing we gave them at rugby park Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 25, 2019 Report Share Posted July 25, 2019 2 hours ago, Roque said: I misunderstood what DD meant by "league positions", assuming it to be about the group positions in the League Cup! Have edited that part of the post to be clearer. So did I but excellent piece of statto(ing), thanks for the list roque Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Jag Posted July 27, 2019 Report Share Posted July 27, 2019 If I remember correctly, last season we had to wait to the Sunday and hope Hearts beat ICT by a few goals so that we qualified for the last 16. So good to be relaxed and watching other teams sweating on whether they go thru or not. When is the draw for the last 16 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Murray Posted July 27, 2019 Report Share Posted July 27, 2019 Tomorrow after the Dundee match, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QXBoy Posted July 27, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2019 OK - I know the seeding system, but can somebody clarify (because the SPFL web site does not) how do they decide who is home and who is away? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BILL.H Posted July 27, 2019 Report Share Posted July 27, 2019 They draw seeded team 1st (H) against unseeded team (A) Then draw Unseeded team 1st (H) against seeded team (A) and repeat. 2 pots. One with seeded teams, one with unseeded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elevenone Posted July 27, 2019 Report Share Posted July 27, 2019 Looking like we will not be seeded now. Kilmarnock/Livi home for me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted July 27, 2019 Report Share Posted July 27, 2019 So at the moment we finished 5th best. Of the 8 seeds, I would prefer Motherwell at Firhill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClydebankJag Posted July 27, 2019 Report Share Posted July 27, 2019 The benefit for us this time is that as an unseeded team we can still get a good home tie. I felt cheated a few years ago when as a seeded team we got Dundee Utd away and some second placed teams got better draws. In reality I think all seeds should benefit from a home tie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elevenone Posted July 27, 2019 Report Share Posted July 27, 2019 6 minutes ago, ClydebankJag said: The benefit for us this time is that as an unseeded team we can still get a good home tie. I felt cheated a few years ago when as a seeded team we got Dundee Utd away and some second placed teams got better draws. In reality I think all seeds should benefit from a home tie. Can’t agree there as that would guarantee ugly sisters home tie always and Scottish football is already too bias in their favour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
partickthedog Posted July 27, 2019 Report Share Posted July 27, 2019 20 minutes ago, elevenone said: Can’t agree there as that would guarantee ugly sisters home tie always and Scottish football is already too bias in their favour. I agree, and not just on the OF point. If all or at least the vast majority of the ties are "higher teams" at home to "lower teams", in terms of league position, financial resources etc, then the possibility of surprises is minimised. To have a realistic chance of progressing far, we have to hope that some big beasts are taken out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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