sandy Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 (edited) 33 minutes ago, javeajag said: Possibly the worst post from well Does that even make sense? No. So you think Doolan did nothing and there some positives from today? Do care to list these, cos I think you are perhaps on a shaky peg now. Justify us being foot of the table; is that what you want for our Club? Edited August 31, 2019 by sandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 30 minutes ago, Third Lanark said: Im not sure Caldwell is necessary the answer but in terms of shocking capitulation- what do you expect when 2 men are sent off pretty much any team would struggle why are you so worked up - don’t go to games, don’t get season ticket but always first to hang around the forum and start moaning as soon as we lose - even moaning your going to resign for a year It’s you’re 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 13 minutes ago, Semi Nurainen said: The worst thing to come out of today's game wasn't the loss of three points (that was guaranteed from the first kick of the ball, there was only one team hungry for this), it is the fact that the Ref's bizarre behaviour will give this clown's defenders the opportunity to prolong the agony. The only good thing to come out of the game is that it is now only a matter of time before this clown is on his way - absolutely inevitable. 'Wait until we're one down and two men short, then I'll think about subs'. Utter utter rubbish we deservedly went in at half time ahead ... we were even comfortable at 10 men ..how you can think Ayr were either any good or the hungrier team is beyond me ... if we had kept 11 players on the park we round have won the match positives: zanatta , hall , good play for our second goal , team trying to equalise after we went down 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 1 minute ago, sandy said: Does that even make sense? No. So you think Doolan did nothing and there some positives from today? Do care to list these, cos I think you are perhaps on a shaky peg now. Justify us being foot of the table; is that what you want for our Club? Just did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 Just now, sandy said: It’s you’re You really can’t criticise anyone- you said when Doolan left there was a tsunami of a reaction against Caldwell- way to go equate a player leaving with an incident that killed hundreds of people. not arguing with others genuinely calling for Caldwell’s head- you are in a league of your own - full of poison, arrogance and a pretty sick humour. First to criticise people who go to games, revel in defeats - basically definition of a parasite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firhillista Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 Today's loss had nothing to do with Gary Caldwell and everything to do with appalling officiating. I get that the players 'gave the referee a decision to make', but he made the wrong decision, twice. There's no way that Gordon's tackle warranted a red card and Bannigan was as surprised as anyone when the Ayr player ran into his raised foot - he didn't know he was there! Whatever the rights and wrongs of the managerial situation, today's game doesn't clarify things either way. However, we're bottom of the table and that can't continue for long. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 Just now, Firhillista said: Today's loss had nothing to do with Gary Caldwell and everything to do with appalling officiating. I get that the players 'gave the referee a decision to make', but he made the wrong decision, twice. There's no way that Gordon's tackle warranted a red card and Bannigan was as surprised as anyone when the Ayr player ran into his raised foot - he didn't know he was there! Whatever the rights and wrongs of the managerial situation, today's game doesn't clarify things either way. However, we're bottom of the table and that can't continue for long. Completely sensible post and agree on all points Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 1 minute ago, Firhillista said: Today's loss had nothing to do with Gary Caldwell and everything to do with appalling officiating. I get that the players 'gave the referee a decision to make', but he made the wrong decision, twice. There's no way that Gordon's tackle warranted a red card and Bannigan was as surprised as anyone when the Ayr player ran into his raised foot - he didn't know he was there! Whatever the rights and wrongs of the managerial situation, today's game doesn't clarify things either way. However, we're bottom of the table and that can't continue for long. Far too sensible and correct ..., the referee was dreadful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordanhill Jag Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, javeajag said: Far too sensible and correct ..., the referee was dreadful But "luck" like Caldwells is going to relegate us - its his Team - His Tacticts - Ayr Utd will have no where near the Budget or resources - they are Second - we are bottom - Since he has been appionted we have been outside the Botom Two No more than a few weeks - cant blame Archie Anymore - there is a consistancy - varying permatations to it each game - but a consistancy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 Just now, Jordanhill Jag said: But "luck" like Caldwells is going to relegate us - its his Team - His Tacticts - Ayr Utd will have no where near the Budget or resources - they are Second - we are bottom - Since he has been appionted we have been outside the Botom Two No more than a few weeks - cant blame Archie Anymore - there is a consistancy - varying permatations to it each game - but a consistancy I never mentioned luck but it’s hard to blame Caldwell today ... we looked ok till we went down to nine men if we don’t climb the table shortly he will be gone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dl1971 Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 Not much more to say. Scunnered. Would like to see the reds again. First half I thought we were lucky to be ahead. Personally i thought Caldwell should have brought oware on as it was obvious we would be under pressure. That said how can I manager legislate for two red cards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordanhill Jag Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, javeajag said: I never mentioned luck but it’s hard to blame Caldwell today ... we looked ok till we went down to nine men if we don’t climb the table shortly he will be gone Agreed - Problem is - yet another Pay Off One thing worth noting - when we went down to 10 Men - why didnt he bring on a Defender Edited August 31, 2019 by Jordanhill Jag 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 1 minute ago, Jordanhill Jag said: Agreed - Problem is - yet another Pay Off Yep not good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince of Partick Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 Caldwell must go now before we become even more detached. Football is a results driven business, I think Caldwell has assembled a good squad but if he can not motivate them as a team, we need a change. Zanatta looks a good player as we know from his Alloa days, Hall looks decent and will get better with some games, a new manager is required to get the best out of this squad. Gordon's sending off right in front of me was at best a booking. Banzo should know better. straight red is all the ref could do. Zanatta's substitution was a joke, best man in a thistle jersey by a mile. New Manager next week, the board knew this start was possible so must have looked at candidates , hopefully not Power Point Presentations. Mr Beattie/Mr Lee over to you. Act quickly before it is too late 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Rosebury Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 1 minute ago, Prince of Partick said: Caldwell must go now before we become even more detached. Football is a results driven business, I think Caldwell has assembled a good squad but if he can not motivate them as a team, we need a change. Zanatta looks a good player as we know from his Alloa days, Hall looks decent and will get better with some games, a new manager is required to get the best out of this squad. Gordon's sending off right in front of me was at best a booking. Banzo should know better. straight red is all the ref could do. Zanatta's substitution was a joke, best man in a thistle jersey by a mile. New Manager next week, the board knew this start was possible so must have looked at candidates , hopefully not Power Point Presentations. Mr Beattie/Mr Lee over to you. Act quickly before it is too late Zanatta, having played very little football this season, was clearly blowing out his arse and was rightly taken off. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stillresigned Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 To be completely honest the players on the pitch today really put a shift in. Unfortunately, there’s simply no legislating for the incompetence of Dallas or for the stupidity of Stuart Brannigan this afternoon. i thought that by and large that there a lot of positives came out of today’s game. Although, in the event of anyone feeling differently we’re definitely in an avoiding relegation situation again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince of Partick Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 You are maybe right but he was still our most dangerous player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Col Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 Zanatta is a quality player. Hall is another Caldwell dud. Jones is not and never will be a football player. How big Tam never got on the pitch is a complete bewilderment when Ayr were all over us and the players were all standing off. That was when a leader was needed on the pitch. I totally disagree that the manager has assembled a good squad. It smacks of Archibald’s journeymen and inexperienced talentless duds that no other club wanted. Anyone who thinks we will be successful with this squad and manager are deluded. Blame the ref all you want for today’s result but it’s not him who has got us 1 point out of 12 and has us languishing bottom of the table tonight. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firhillista Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, Prince of Partick said: Caldwell must go now before we become even more detached. Football is a results driven business, I think Caldwell has assembled a good squad but if he can not motivate them as a team, we need a change. Zanatta looks a good player as we know from his Alloa days, Hall looks decent and will get better with some games, a new manager is required to get the best out of this squad. Gordon's sending off right in front of me was at best a booking. Banzo should know better. straight red is all the ref could do. Zanatta's substitution was a joke, best man in a thistle jersey by a mile. New Manager next week, the board knew this start was possible so must have looked at candidates , hopefully not Power Point Presentations. Mr Beattie/Mr Lee over to you. Act quickly before it is too late Sorry, nothing personal, but - nonsense. As I've already posted, it's not possible to blame that defeat on Caldwell. Well, not unless you're so determined to see him gone that you'll take any opportunity to make the case for his dismissal. BOTH sending off's were at best bookings. Yes, Zanatta was the best player by a mile, but he was clearly out on his feet. We needed someone to hold the ball up and Mansell was the sensible choice. If we sack Caldwell now God knows what we'll have to pay in compensation, before we can even begin to think of a replacement. We're only four games into the season and we're far away from it being 'too late'. Time to cool the beans. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Col Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 5 minutes ago, stillresigned said: To be completely honest the players on the pitch today really put a shift in. Unfortunately, there’s simply no legislating for the incompetence of Dallas or for the stupidity of Stuart Brannigan this afternoon. i thought that by and large that there a lot of positives came out of today’s game. Although, in the event of anyone feeling differently we’re definitely in an avoiding relegation situation again. Other than Zanatta, what were the positives? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodstock Jag Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 Dick Campbell’s part time Arbroath have seven times as many points as us. Gary Caldwell get yourself to ****. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 3 minutes ago, Prince of Partick said: You are maybe right but he was still our most dangerous player. This season dangerous as in making stupid mistakes and gifting the opposition? By his standards banning all has had a very poor season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Col Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 1 minute ago, Firhillista said: Sorry, nothing personal, but - nonsense. As I've already posted, it's not possible to blame that defeat on Caldwell. Well, not unless you're so determined to see him gone that you'll take any opportunity to make the case for his dismissal. BOTH sending off's were at best bookings. Yes, Zanatta was the best player by a mile, but he was clearly out on his feet. We needed someone to hold the ball up and Mansell was the sensible choice. If we sack Caldwell now God knows what we'll have to pay in compensation, before we can even begin to think of a replacement. We're only four games into the season and we're far away from it being 'too late'. Time to cool the beans. Agreed - let’s wait till we’re bottom of the table and have no league wins before we sack him. Oh hang on.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 31 minutes ago, Third Lanark said: You really can’t criticise anyone- you said when Doolan left there was a tsunami of a reaction against Caldwell- way to go equate a player leaving with an incident that killed hundreds of people. not arguing with others genuinely calling for Caldwell’s head- you are in a league of your own - full of poison, arrogance and a pretty sick humour. First to criticise people who go to games, revel in defeats - basically definition of a parasite Go get some fresh air Matt, you need it mate! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firhillista Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 1 minute ago, Big Col said: Other than Zanatta, what were the positives? Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how did you enjoy the play? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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