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F*cking shite result, the true legacy of Caldwell who took our team apart and left it unbalanced. Yeah thanks Gary, cheers ya dobber.

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5 minutes ago, sandy said:

F*cking shite result, the true legacy of Caldwell who took our team apart and left it unbalanced. Yeah thanks Gary, cheers ya dobber.

Sorry Sandy, you are wrong, he left us with a top 4 squad.:help:

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So last three games .... 3 defeats , 8 goals against and 2 for 

I don’t think McCall can be totally absolved from the blame 

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At least Forres Mechanics pulled it out the bag and won 5-4 today 

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1 minute ago, Semi Nurainen said:

We're only 6/8/10/12 points off the top 4.

We might as well be 112points of top 4, for all the chance we have of getting there.

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When Michael Max says it is heartbeaking to watch you know it is bad.

Also, nobody praised Caldwell when we beat ICT, Dundee & Nomads it was all Ian McCall so he has to take his share of the blame as well.

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2 minutes ago, Fawlty Towers said:

When Michael Max says it is heartbeaking to watch you know it is bad.

Also, nobody praised Caldwell when we beat ICT, Dundee & Nomads it was all Ian McCall so he has to take his share of the blame as well.

Yep he does .... if you back to when Caldwell took over from Archie he got criticised in the same situation 

the key issue is whether you think the squad is the worst in the league or we are under performing 

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Ayr were really good. We were really bad.

Still think we've got some good players, but we're miles away from having a good team.

Best we can hope for now is that we go into the January transfer window still in touch with the group. On today's evidence, it's a big ask.

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2 minutes ago, javeajag said:

Yep he does .... if you back to when Caldwell took over from Archie he got criticised in the same situation 

the key issue is whether you think the squad is the worst in the league or we are under performing 

I think it’s the worst, both in balance physicality and movement. I think when we’re winning we as a squad have totally upped their game, today though shows the normal level

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3 minutes ago, javeajag said:

Yep he does .... if you back to when Caldwell took over from Archie he got criticised in the same situation 

the key issue is whether you think the squad is the worst in the league or we are under performing 

Or possibly both

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Glad I've been on holiday last 9 days. Avoided seeing three defeats.....miserable times and I'm getting the feeling it could get worse for a bit. A case of hanging in there. Grim.

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McCall has won 3?  games since coming in. That’s easily more than Caldwell did when he came in until January......

Anyway, McCall has to find a way of keeping us in touch and then he does have scope to make changes in January....... 4 loans expire and he could terminate the 5th plus dispose of Jones and the absent Australian. Using them as examples. Yes the later would cost money to release but we might not have a choice.

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Absolute disgrace, no leadership on the park , no heart , nobody willing to put their body on the line  ( Joe Cardle and Lewis Mansell excepted ) , 

Ian Mcall has a huge job to keep us in the league which should be the aim now .

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1 hour ago, Firhillista said:

Ayr were really good. We were really bad.

Still think we've got some good players, but we're miles away from having a good team.

Best we can hope for now is that we go into the January transfer window still in touch with the group. On today's evidence, it's a big ask.

Aye that's about what we thought of the game and the task ahead.

In truth we were lucky to go in at half time only two down. If anything 1-4 flattered us. On Tuesday night there was more than just a semblance of teamwork. Today we looked like a pre-season outfit, gently finding our feet and slowly getting to know each other. 

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Cardle (as well as McCall) immediately apologised to the fans after the game and was the only player prepared to give his all.

mcginty has offered little as captain.

id like to see cardle given the captaincy 

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Last year,  watching the team just prior to Archie being fired, I thought I had seen a PTFC team playing at a historic low point for effort, passion and skill. [ok, historically there have been worse teams wearing PTFC shirts on the park, but overall we had a reasonable squad of players that should have been good enough for at least mid table mediocrity] Last weeks Arbroath game was as bad as anything I saw from Archie's team from last season, and it sounds like todays game was a continuation of the utter shyte we witnessed a week ago. IMC and his assistants have got themselves a tough job to do. 

This team appears to be an unbalanced, unmotivated, for some part unskilled group of players that are incapable of playing as a cohesive unit on a week by week basis. They have occasional flashes of brilliance, but the 'default status' for this team is lower league one level of play [IMO,Falkirk or Raith Rovers could beat this current PTFC team with ease] 

Far less top four status, this season we should be hoping we do not get relegated. It may be we get to the end of season 2019 / 2020 and stay in this Championship division, but it's my guess it will not be with the majority of this group of players.

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Cant agree with it would be easier to build from scratch in the league below. Relegation again could see us in third tier for years to come. McCall needs to find a way to get the team picking up points until January. Then get players in that will keep us in this league. Then over the summer do the required surgery to the team to get us challenging in the top half. I have said it before, our next 2 league games are at home to Morton and Alloa. We need to take 6 points  from these games and that would keep us in touch. 

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3 hours ago, Anniesland Jag said:

This is truly awful...really feel for our travelling support today.

It was even worse than the 5-1 mauling by Morton last year. Ayr could easily have scored 7 against us. Perhaps the worst Jags performance I've seen (though I'm a relative newbie, I only go back to 1979) Watching Thistle is akin to self-harming these days. 

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We have a number of players completely devoid of confidence . I really would stop playing Williamson - the boy looks shit scared .

Miller is undoubtedly a good player and his football brain is way faster than most of his teammates- you can see that from the wee flicks and the runs he makes . That being said , his constant moaning and gesticulating at others must be discouraging and is not , I believe , helpful or justified .

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Awful fare, a complete s***show.  None of those players deserve to wear the shirt.  Miller top scorer, footballing brain etc?  No thanks he would be one of the first out of the door.  Take Gordon with you...in fact out with extending Cole’s loan and Sneddon and Penrice (at a push) none of these guys are fit for purpose.  Banzo and Slater, its the very sentimentally surrounding players like this which have us in this mess.  Caldwell has left us in the quagmire and must rank along with Clark,Johnstone and Campbell with his legacy.  I do not normally post this fed up/angry but enough is enough!

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