Jacqui Low

[Jaggernaut]

24 minutes ago, jaf said:

 

It’s what mr weir thinks that matters and having  bought the club he can do whatever he wants with it and put whomsoever he wishes in charge  

 

Well done on that , my man!

[jaf]

12 minutes ago, Third Lanark said:

I’ve no idea if Jackie low is involved or not, I think it would be better in terms of fans unity if she wasn’t.

what is clear is that Colin Weir is involved and despite no doubt having made some mistakes (name me a person that wouldn’t) he has the club at heart and would prefer his involvement any day over a vulture like Paul Conway 

Unarguable  - totally agree  

 

[Firhillista]

Being chairman of Partick Thistle has certainly drawn some negative reactions from Jags fans in the past and it's not surprising that Jacqui Lowe's tenure is seen as a complete car crash, but I have to say I quite liked a lot of what she was about.

She made it clear that the club was open to all and that inclusiveness was at the heart of what we're about. I don't think the importance of this can be underestimated. She represented the club as what I'd like it to be - open, progressive and forward thinking. (And, yes, I know of her previous links with the Tory party, but her comments in the press and social media seem to express values not normally associated with that mind set - maybe she's changed?)

In my opinion, she made two massive mistakes - the appointment of Gary Caldwell and the 'call me Jacqui', 'my door is always open', 'I will communicate on a regular basis' approach to the job.

The Caldwell decision is definitive in explaining why she shouldn't be in an executive role at the club again. It was naive and, if rumours are true, against more knowledgeable advice. If you've not had any significant experience of a role previously, you should be listening to more experienced people around you. If you insist on doing things your way, then that indicates an ego that's going to get in the way of good management.

It's all very well to put openness and communication at the heart of what you're about, but what happens when you can't solve every problem people bring to you? What happens if what they think is a problem, you think is a good thing? What happens when there's no good news to communicate and all you've got to say, "Yup, everything is still shite"?

She did some good things, but she showed me she's not the best person for the job.

[allyo]

Out of likes, but agree 

[Springburnjag]

1 minute ago, Firhillista said:

Being chairman of Partick Thistle has certainly drawn some negative reactions from Jags fans in the past and it's not surprising that Jacqui Lowe's tenure is seen as a complete car crash, but I have to say I quite liked a lot of what she was about.

She made it clear that the club was open to all and that inclusiveness was at the heart of what we're about. I don't think the importance of this can be underestimated. She represented the club as what I'd like it to be - open, progressive and forward thinking. (And, yes, I know of her previous links with the Tory party, but her comments in the press and social media seem to express values not normally associated with that mind set - maybe she's changed?)

In my opinion, she made two massive mistakes - the appointment of Gary Caldwell and the 'call me Jacqui', 'my door is always open', 'I will communicate on a regular basis' approach to the job.

The Caldwell decision is definitive in explaining why she shouldn't be in an executive role at the club again. It was naive and, if rumours are true, against more knowledgeable advice. If you've not had any significant experience of a role previously, you should be listening to more experienced people around you. If you insist on doing things your way, then that indicates an ego that's going to get in the way of good management.

It's all very well to put openness and communication at the heart of what you're about, but what happens when you can't solve every problem people bring to you? What happens if what they think is a problem, you think is a good thing? What happens when there's no good news to communicate and all you've got to say, "Yup, everything is still shite"?

She did some good things, but she showed me she's not the best person for the job.

The best outcome here is for the new fans organization to take over ASAP ....we can then hopefully move forward with a relatively clean slate and new faces

[scotty]

31 minutes ago, jaf said:

you can’t run around accuse people of chauvinism and expect them not to be upset 

But at the same time you can't go around accusing people of things you wont name and also not expect people to get upset or react.

[Dark Passenger]

Jacqui Low's always seemed pleasant enough on the face of things, but her brand is now toxic and her presence divisive. Those defending her must know that. She must know that. 

[Dark Passenger]

1 hour ago, Garscube Road End said:

I certainly dont defend Britton. He should never have got the job. A Low appointee.

Incorrect.

[scotty]

I'm not going to try to defend Jacqui Low's tenure as chairof PTFC but since she became a board member there were mysoginistic attitudes surfacing. These were directed at the fact we has appointed a women as chair and also at the focus on our womens' team. When the new strip was announced despite there being a groundswell of support for the inclusive attitude it portrayed there was also a disturbing undercurrent of homophobia around the fan-base. This intolerance is often also highlighted whenever the sectarian divide arises. Despite our claims to be anti-sectarian there are a few jags fans for whom there is a decide bias towards one denomination or another.

The claim that Partick Thistle is an open and inclusive club to support can be difficult to support on occasions.

Edited November 23, 2019 by scotty
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[Garscube Road End]

4 minutes ago, Dark Passenger said:

Incorrect.

I indeed stand corrected. Thank you.

[Garscube Road End]

2 minutes ago, scotty said:

I'm not going to try to defend Jacqui Low's tenure as chairof PTFC but since she became a board member there were mysoginistic attitudes surfacing. These were directed at the fact we has appointed a women as chair and also at the focus on our womens' team. When the new strip was announced despite there being a groundswell of support for the inclusive attitude it portrayed there was also a disturbing undercurrent of homophobia around the fan-base. This intolerance is often also highlighted whenever the secrarian divide arises. Despite our claims to be anti-sectarian there are a few jags fans for whom there is a decide bias towards one denomination or another.

The claim that Partick Thistle is an open and inclusive club to support can be difficult to support on occasions.

Indeed. There are many so called Thistle fans who support either if the bigoted 2.

[scotty]

Just now, Garscube Road End said:

Indeed. There are many so called Thistle fans who support either if the bigoted 2.

It's not only about who you (one) really support (s) but there can be a religious intolerance even amongst true red and yellow supporters.

[Garscube Road End]

5 minutes ago, scotty said:

It's not only about who you (one) really support (s) but there can be a religious intolerance even amongst true red and yellow supporters.

Indeed. They are not welcome at Partick Thistle FC.

[Jordanhill Jag]

2 hours ago, blakey said:

Jj - how do you know that he wasn’t. I would expect that as part of the board, he would be part of the process?  

Because he isnt part of the Board and its a Board Decision -  I was told that he wasnt in the room when the interviews took place - I have no reason not to believe the told me 

 

[Kingleo]

Haven’t looked at this thread since last night and am amazed there’s another 3 pages worth. I can’t get my head round how anyone could think her reign anything other than a complete and utter shambles. The period around November last year when she and Caldwell were talking in one of her monthly podcasts or whatever they were was hide behind the couch awful. Bottom of the league and utter dross and these clowns were sat there going on about promotion. The warning signs were there in summer 18 when she came out and said the manager “ would be given a competitive budget to get the team challenging and playing the Partick Thistle way”. Do these people think we’re stupid. What does playing the Partick Thistle way even mean? Passing the ball sideways and losing a goal in the last 5 minutes. It’s the sheer insult to the intelligence that’s the worst of it. For hiring a useless failure like Caldwell is the one and only reason she should be no where near our football club. But the modern world means that some people see it as some sort of “ ism” if others don’t want her back. If she was Jewish they’d be saying there was an anti Semitic angle to it or if she was Syrian not wanting her back would be An anti Muslim thing. Why can’t people accept that others don’t want her back because her reign was an unmitigated disaster. I’ve only been back since McCall came in and her reappearance would put me right off. We were an embarrassment last season and she was a huge part of that

[allyo]

18 minutes ago, scotty said:

Despite our claims to be anti-sectarian there are a few jags fans for whom there is a decide bias towards one denomination or another.

I'll be honest, I can't help disliking Rangers more. I put it down to having to go to school with them.

[Jago1953]

Having read all the comments re Ms Low no where have I seen any mention of her gender as being reason for peoples opinions. Only her competence/ incompetence as chairperson appears to be the criteria. Deep breaths count to ten & carry on cheering on the Jags. 

[Dark Passenger]

My message to Jacqui Low would be this:

You might be a director of TBC, but if you know your brand is toxic then sit this one out. If you want to give fan ownership the best chance of succeeding then sit this one out.

Mr Weir will have other advisers. Lawyers, accountants, financial planners. The interim board has a good mix of skills. It includes a successful, respected entrepreneur and a corporate comms specialist.

Let them and the working group, once it's established, get on with things.

[Jordanhill Jag]

50 minutes ago, Dark Passenger said:

Jacqui Low's always seemed pleasant enough on the face of things, but her brand is now toxic and her presence divisive. Those defending her must know that. She must know that. 

More importantly TFE made a clear public statement that JLo  wouldnt return - now for clarity  "Official Capacity" doesn't need a formal title - if your part of the decision making process the the Title of "Shadow Director" is well covered by its  description in the Companies Act 

There is talk on Social Media of being Colin Weirs Advisor - Colin Weir is a Director - he has a Vote on the Board nothing more than that  - the fact that 3BC are Majority Shareholders are irrelevant- the Board of Directors run the Club - Advisor or Directors of 3BC  is nothing to do with Partick Thiste FC on any level - zero ..... 

As for rumours of "New Owners" - Majority Shareholders can remove the Board - they can Vote on matters at an AGM - Majority Shareholders have no formal or informal role beyond that - the Board of Directors make the decisions not Shareholders - any influence or role in decisions-  then the definition of Shadow Director has a bearing 

Any influence in any shape or form outwith the Board of Directors - then  TFE and the Thistle Trust Directors who supported the TFE Project have to step down 

This is not about Jlo - its about the fact that a Vision of Fan Ownership was pitched by TFE - that they were buying the Club 

First change is 3BC bought the Club not TFE - second change 3BC will have ultimate say in the Model of Fan Ownership as the Majority Shareholder and the Vehicle thats transferring the shares  ( which is a long way away from "Unconditional Financial Support from Colin Weir " 

TFE and Thistle Trust  both now have Two Directors each - its on them to deliver - and be very clear that they are making all decisions at the Club  - between them they are the Majority on the Board - they have the Power to deliver 

Obviously there are concerns regards statements on Twitter and various rumours flying about -these can be killed very quickly with short sharp statement leaving no room for dubiety from the Club - otherwise the rumours will persist and thats not healthy   

 

 

Edited November 23, 2019 by Jordanhill Jag

[Jordanhill Jag]

16 hours ago, Third Lanark said:

Has the person who does hospitality been removed 

Im confused - the Club gets taken over - and within hours the very very first decision by the Board of Directors -  is to remove the Hospitality Manager - is that it - is this the first priority of the New Board - removing someone I doubt any of them had met ? 

Also if it was a Gerry B decision-  pretty sure it would have occurred under the previous Board and he was a Gerry appiontee - so doubt GB made the decision ? 

It seems a very very worrying - and strange decision to make in the first hours of taking over a Football Club ?   

[Springburnjag]

12 minutes ago, Jordanhill Jag said:

More importantly TFE made a clear public statement that JLo  wouldnt return - now for clarity  "Official Capacity" doesn't need a formal title - if your part of the decision making process the the Title of "Shadow Director" is well covered by its  description in the Companies Act 

There is talk on Social Media of being Colin Weirs Advisor - Colin Weir is a Director - he has a Vote on the Board nothing more than that  - the fact that 3BC are Majority Shareholders are irrelevant- the Board of Directors run the Club - Advisor or Directors of 3BC  is nothing to do with Partick Thiste FC on any level - zero ..... 

As for rumours of "New Owners" - Majority Shareholders can remove the Board - they can Vote on matters at an AGM - Majority Shareholders have no formal or informal role beyond that - the Board of Directors make the decisions not Shareholders - any influence or role in decisions-  then the definition of Shadow Director has a bearing 

Any influence in any shape or form outwith the Board of Directors - then  TFE and the Thistle Trust Directors who supported the TFE Project have to step down 

This is not about Jlo - its about the fact that a Vision of Fan Ownership was pitched by TFE - that they were buying the Club 

First change is 3BC bought the Club not TFE - second change 3BC will have ultimate say in the Model of Fan Ownership as the Majority Shareholder and the Vehicle thats transferring the shares  ( which is a long way away from "Unconditional Financial Support from Colin Weir " 

TFE and Thistle Trust  both now have Two Directors each - its on them to deliver - and be very clear that they are making all decisions at the Club  - between them they are the Majority on the Board - they have the Power to deliver 

Obviously there are concerns regards statements on Twitter and various rumours flying about -these can be killed very quickly with short sharp statement leaving no room for dubiety from the Club - otherwise the rumours will persist and thats not healthy   

 

 

Colin Weir owns the club not tfe.....have you any evidence that jlow is involved with tfe ? no you haven’t .....if Colin Weir wants to take advice from her that’s his right .....my understanding from another poster on here is that tfe are aware of the issues around her and would prefer her not involved that may be why she’s not a director 

I worry about you sometimes I can’t work out if your being deliberately misleading or what....

1. tfe was set up to get money from the fans to buy the club rather than let it be sold to conway

2. THEN Colin weir comes along and says I’ll buy the club and then gift it to fan/community ownership 

3. that clearly changed the original tfe plan

4. Colin weir has tasked the PTFC trust and tfe to create a NEW organization representing all fans that will receive his shareholding 

4. so both tfe and the PTFC trust will disappear 

you continual negativity is wearisome 

[Jordanhill Jag]

2 minutes ago, Springburnjag said:

Colin Weir owns the club not tfe.....have you any evidence that jlow is involved with tfe ? no you haven’t .....if Colin Weir wants to take advice from her that’s his right .....my understanding from another poster on here is that tfe are aware of the issues around her and would prefer her not involved that may be why she’s not a director 

I worry about you sometimes I can’t work out if your being deliberately misleading or what....

1. tfe was set up to get money from the fans to buy the club rather than let it be sold to conway

2. THEN Colin weir comes along and says I’ll buy the club and then gift it to fan/community ownership 

3. that clearly changed the original tfe plan

4. Colin weir has tasked the PTFC trust and tfe to create a NEW organization representing all fans that will receive his shareholding 

4. so both tfe and the PTFC trust will disappear 

you continual negativity is wearisome 

There is nothing misleading in what Ive said that I can see ? 

We are not party to points 2 or 3 - No one has any idea as to what changed from the original TFE Plan no have the clarified that ? 

Yes they have been tasked by looking at a New Organisation and the decision on the Model will be 3BC which is there right - but its not what TFE pitched to the Fans ? 

So lets just see what emerges shall we ?  

[Springburnjag]

1 minute ago, Jordanhill Jag said:

There is nothing misleading in what Ive said that I can see ? 

We are not party to points 2 or 3 - No one has any idea as to what changed from the original TFE Plan no have the clarified that ? 

Yes they have been tasked by looking at a New Organisation and the decision on the Model will be 3BC which is there right - but its not what TFE pitched to the Fans ? 

So lets just see what emerges shall we ?  

Eh? Colin Weir said rather than fans contributing over time to buy the club he would buy it and gift it to us the fans.....either you don’t think that’s a change, don’t understand it or are being deliberately mischievous 

I think that Colin weir has asked the trust and tfe to come up the new organization indicates he’s not going to 

stop trying to stir up division 

[Lenziejag]

3 hours ago, blakey said:

For me - we should have more diversity in the board. It still seems to me that the negativity to jacqui is out of proportion. I’d welcome her back and the comments and negativity on here reinforce my views that some of this is old fashioned male chauvinism ie. she’s out of her depth. What prepares you to be a chair of a club, apart from being on a board previously?

There is some merit in what you say. But just because you have been on a board doesn’t mean you will be good as chairperson. And that is Jacqui Lows actual experience at Thistle.

She was on the board, she became chairperson and she wasn’t good at it.

That of course isn’t to say she wouldn’t be good next time around, but it is certainly a risk for Colin Weir to consider.

[scotty]

1 minute ago, Lenziejag said:

There is some merit in what you say. But just because you have been on a board doesn’t mean you will be good as chairperson. And that is Jacqui Lows actual experience at Thistle.

She was on the board, she became chairperson and she wasn’t good at it.

That of course isn’t to say she wouldn’t be good next time around, but it is certainly a risk for Colin Weir to consider.

The way things have been outlined the only way she could become chair is if she becomes involved in the new organisation, puts herself forward and then gets more backing than anyone else in the running!