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2 minutes ago, Garscube Road End said:

None of us know if anyone else is interested.  Even if there was I doubt the Fans Ownership Politburo would give up their club ties and blazers.

You really don’t like thistle fans much 

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10 minutes ago, javeajag said:

I’m not convinced we will go down this year ... clydes  problems were different to ours 

What? After today’s result? 

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1 minute ago, javeajag said:

You really don’t like thistle fans much 

Not a problem with Thistle fans. A severe problem with the club being run by a committee who will all have their own agendas, as they have no personal financial commitments, and will be to the detriment of the club.

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1 minute ago, sandy said:

What? After today’s result? 

Yes even after today’s result but unless you know the future at this point it’s our different opinions and I’m not glossing over the difficulties 

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I have no idea how the fan ownership process will turn out, but the club currently is amateurish in the way it is run, and unambitious in its approach to the club's development.

Nothing seems to work well - poor communications, a stuttering Jagzone and a sense that no one has a strong hand on the tiller.  Re-hiring Archibald seemed like a muddled way to save money by avoiding hiring an assistant to McCall and using the remainder of Archibald's contract budget. 

The club needs a root and branch clearout, with a hard nosed CEO from outside football to kick arses out the door and bring in some professional non-football management.

If, as seems likely we will be looking to replace McCall and his team if results do not change, we should cast the net much further that the tired also rans of Scottish football management.  Look to continental Europe, for someone different with a fresh approach and new contacts.

We have to stop playing "the Partick Thistle way", it stands for incompetence, and zero ambition.

If all the club ownership changes achieve is a re-arrangement of the deck chairs, then an opportunity will have been lost.

 

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15 minutes ago, eljaggo said:

Re-hiring Archibald seemed like a muddled way to save money by avoiding hiring an assistant to McCall and using the remainder of Archibald's contract budget. 

Scally? Archie was no longer being paid by the club at the time of his appointment AFAIK.

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Just now, Dark Passenger said:

Scally? Archie was no longer being paid by the club at the time of his appointment AFAIK.

I believe he was just about to get his last month's pay as he came back.

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27 minutes ago, javeajag said:

Yes even after today’s result but unless you know the future at this point it’s our different opinions and I’m not glossing over the difficulties 

It’s our trajectory downwards that concerns me - I had more hope 4 weeks ago

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41 minutes ago, jaf said:

How many offered to remain on the interim board? 

No idea if they were asked or offered - I just Know that 3BC stated  they were the New Owners - Appointed the Interim Board  - who then removed Jim Oliver as President - So Im sort of Guessing there was a decision for a clear break from the past - and I dont think relationships were great with 3BC and former Board Members 

Ronnie Gilfillan stated he would serve as long as the Board needed him - I have no reason not to believe it was not  a genuine offer 

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46 minutes ago, javeajag said:

I’m not convinced we will go down this year ... clydes  problems were different to ours 

Clyde just missed out on Promotion - when we were scrambling about under Dick Campbell - the only thing that kept us up was Terry Butcher and Richard Gough coming in the last few Games after Dick Departed - Clyde went on a downward spiral ever since - we in the opposite direction - So I dont see our problems being different - I see a General and continuing malaise at the Club which has existed since we got top Six in the Premier      

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On 2/8/2020 at 6:36 PM, eljaggo said:

I have no idea how the fan ownership process will turn out, but the club currently is amateurish in the way it is run, and unambitious in its approach to the club's development.

Nothing seems to work well - poor communications, a stuttering Jagzone and a sense that no one has a strong hand on the tiller.  Re-hiring Archibald seemed like a muddled way to save money by avoiding hiring an assistant to McCall and using the remainder of Archibald's contract budget. 

The club needs a root and branch clearout, with a hard nosed CEO from outside football to kick arses out the door and bring in some professional non-football management.

If, as seems likely we will be looking to replace McCall and his team if results do not change, we should cast the net much further that the tired also rans of Scottish football management.  Look to continental Europe, for someone different with a fresh approach and new contacts.

We have to stop playing "the Partick Thistle way", it stands for incompetence, and zero ambition.

If all the club ownership changes achieve is a re-arrangement of the deck chairs, then an opportunity will have been lost.

 

This, especially the highlighted bits. We've been appointing old boys for too long: it's time for a more professional approach to executive appointments.

We could certainly learn from other countries. Enclosed are pics from a 4th tier football club in Germany, Lippstadt 08 <www.lippstadt08.de> - way more professional in appearance and, obviously, in efforts to gain sponsorship, than any Scottish effort I've ever seen. BTW, before anyone complains about us suffering because Glasgow has bigger clubs, this club has a Bundesliga club just up the road, in Paderborn. I've circled the electronic scoreboard next to the main pitch, which can also do video replays. Even before the club moved to its newish stadium, it had an electronic scoreboard of a more limited type, which showed time, the score, the time expired in each half and the temperature - in other words, superior to our current one. On the last occasion I recall it being mentioned, our club maintained that electronic scoreboards are terribly expensive. :thinking: AFAIK, in the UK, they are, but other countries supply more capable models at much lower prices. Maybe showing a bit of initiative and looking online is too difficult, or maybe the dependence on English-language suppliers is a drawback.

List of photos: practice pitches (also used for junior teams); rear of main stand; modern, convenient turnstiles - easy passage for spectators and comfortable for employees; the main pitch; the clubhouse and changing facilities; sponsors.

 

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6 hours ago, jagfox said:

Most Jags fans don't like being reminded of the score at Firhill these days...

Agreed …. the last time I saw PTFC win a game was against Connah's Quay Nomads. It will be about 4 months to the day from that game until play against Raith Rovers this Friday [weather permitting] I did miss a few home games, but for a ST holder I think this statistic might be a record??!!

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