allyo Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 Okay, just looking for opinions. I've tried to frame the question as neutrally as possible but I'm sure everyone won't be in agreement. A straight yes/no. I know there are complexities, but unlike Brexit this poll is of no consequence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rid Skwerr Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 That's twice I have voted today - both for the right cause, I hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 (edited) Mentions polarisation of the support elsewhere. Provides two options on poll! I'm happy Weir has bought the club. I am still undecided on the fam ownership side as there is so much information lacking on that front. I obviously hope it works but I'll spoil my ballot paper for now. Edited December 12, 2019 by jagfox 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted December 12, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 8 minutes ago, jagfox said: Mentions polarisation of the support elsewhere. Provides two options on poll! Hmm. Okay, you may have a point there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 Perhaps the wording could've been better phrased. Any poll on here that begins with "Are you happy" is bound to instigate a NO vote amongst quite a few of our posters. Those peddlers of misery might even by pro fan ownership but the "Are you happy" bit will completely throw them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West of Scotland Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 As Zhou Enlai said, it's too early to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlgarveJag Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 40 minutes ago, West of Scotland said: As Zhou Enlai said, it's too early to say. and it's too late to ask him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 Voted Yes, but like Jagfox I think the details of how it pans out will be crucial. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 13 minutes ago, sandy said: Voted Yes, but like Jagfox I think the details of how it pans out will be crucial. But aren't the details dependant on how fans interact? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 12 minutes ago, scotty said: But aren't the details dependant on how fans interact? Or how they are allowed to and to what extent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, Norgethistle said: Or how they are allowed to and to what extent Is there a model of fan ownership that restricts fan involvement in the way you are implying ? Is that what happens at Motherwell ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted December 12, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 1 hour ago, sandy said: Voted Yes, but like Jagfox I think the details of how it pans out will be crucial. That's where I am too Sandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 2 hours ago, scotty said: But aren't the details dependant on how fans interact? Yes, interaction both ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Jag Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 6 hours ago, allyo said: Okay, just looking for opinions. I've tried to frame the question as neutrally as possible but I'm sure everyone won't be in agreement. A straight yes/no. I know there are complexities, but unlike Brexit this poll is of no consequence. Should we expect to see a bus outside Firhill on Saturday? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garscube Road End Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 (edited) Voted no. I personally don't see a fans ownership happening. J. Low is running the show and is on a massive ego trip that will severely damage Thistle. Edited December 12, 2019 by Garscube Road End 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinhead Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 I am easy oasey tbh but i do fear fan ownership due to everything else the fans have ever been involved in (bar save the jags) has been a colossal cluster****! Too many egos kicking around and as pointed out above Jackie is one of the biggest albeit not on the board just now and making no decisions of course! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jag Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 6 hours ago, jagfox said: Mentions polarisation of the support elsewhere. Provides two options on poll! I'm happy Weir has bought the club. I am still undecided on the fam ownership side as there is so much information lacking on that front. I obviously hope it works but I'll spoil my ballot paper for now. This. Where is the option to vote for this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 3 hours ago, javeajag said: Is there a model of fan ownership that restricts fan involvement in the way you are implying ? Is that what happens at Motherwell ? Motherwell fans decided their model, we are having our model thrust on us, by the same guy that has been involved in 7 attempted fan ownership groups, and attempted to be on another (Rangers) Motherwell had a overwhelming support for theirs, and bought in, it grew from the stands and within. Where as we have less than 10% sign up for something that was presented to them, this never came from the majority of the core support. Motherwell were open, honest and transparent from day one as to who was involved, how people would be selected and how they could be de-selected. We have had a working group picked for us, with an influence from 3BC’s 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 10 minutes ago, Norgethistle said: Motherwell fans decided their model, we are having our model thrust on us, by the same guy that has been involved in 7 attempted fan ownership groups, and attempted to be on another (Rangers) Motherwell had a overwhelming support for theirs, and bought in, it grew from the stands and within. Where as we have less than 10% sign up for something that was presented to them, this never came from the majority of the core support. Motherwell were open, honest and transparent from day one as to who was involved, how people would be selected and how they could be de-selected. We have had a working group picked for us, with an influence from 3BC’s How did Motherwell’s fan ownership come about. Was it when Boyle decided to sell up ? It would be interesting to find out how they went about deciding the model. They must have had a small group coming up with the ideas and making recommendations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 11 minutes ago, Norgethistle said: Motherwell fans decided their model, we are having our model thrust on us, by the same guy that has been involved in 7 attempted fan ownership groups, and attempted to be on another (Rangers) Motherwell had a overwhelming support for theirs, and bought in, it grew from the stands and within. Where as we have less than 10% sign up for something that was presented to them, this never came from the majority of the core support. Motherwell were open, honest and transparent from day one as to who was involved, how people would be selected and how they could be de-selected. We have had a working group picked for us, with an influence from 3BC’s Ok .... I think that’s at this stage these are assertions rather than a facts 1 I haven’t seen a model and neither have you nor how it’s going to be decided on so let’s wait and see what is proposed 2 we don’t know what sign up will be now as opposed to when tfe was set up so that’s not really a measure of anything at this stage 3 again I’m not sure we know all of this yet im also not clear how these things can start if someone or some people dont do something to get things moving ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinhead Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 2 hours ago, javeajag said: Ok .... I think that’s at this stage these are assertions rather than a facts 1 I haven’t seen a model and neither have you nor how it’s going to be decided on so let’s wait and see what is proposed 2 we don’t know what sign up will be now as opposed to when tfe was set up so that’s not really a measure of anything at this stage 3 again I’m not sure we know all of this yet im also not clear how these things can start if someone or some people dont do something to get things moving ! 4. No matter what happens you will always go fan ownership, even if they shite in your kettle - we get it yer a fanboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 9 minutes ago, Pinhead said: 4. No matter what happens you will always go fan ownership, even if they shite in your kettle - we get it yer a fanboy All this offensive drivel from you simply says a lot about you as a person and is unnecessary perhaps you should reflect and make your points in a more considered manner it also shows you don’t read my posts as I’ve never been an enthusiast for fan ownership 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garscube Road End Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 43 minutes ago, javeajag said: All this offensive drivel from you simply says a lot about you as a person and is unnecessary perhaps you should reflect and make your points in a more considered manner it also shows you don’t read my posts as I’ve never been an enthusiast for fan ownership But you certainly fawn over Colin Weir and J. Low 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 8 minutes ago, Garscube Road End said: But you certainly fawn over Colin Weir and J. Low Oh dear....not really but carry on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semi Nurainen Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 15 hours ago, Garscube Road End said: But you certainly fawn over Colin Weir and J. Low And then some. To be fair she hasn't had much time recently as she's been too busy helping with Boris's campaign. Now that she's helped destroy the nation she will now turn her spectacular incompetence to helping to destroy Thistle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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