javeajag Posted March 2, 2020 Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 16 minutes ago, Norgethistle said: Your figures were nonsense as has been pointed out Which figures exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted March 2, 2020 Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 14 minutes ago, javeajag said: Which figures exactly 22 hours ago, javeajag said: So propco put in £1m in 2009 and took out £2m in 2019 15 minutes ago, javeajag said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted March 2, 2020 Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Norgethistle said: Both figures are correct £1m in cash went in £2m came out Edited March 2, 2020 by javeajag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted March 2, 2020 Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 4 minutes ago, javeajag said: Both figures are correct £1m in cash went in £2m came out You stated Beattie made stacks of money out this. Actually he’ll have made a loss out of Propco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted March 2, 2020 Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 15 minutes ago, Norgethistle said: You stated Beattie made stacks of money out this. Actually he’ll have made a loss out of Propco Where did I say that ?! Find it please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted March 2, 2020 Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 40 minutes ago, Norgethistle said: You stated Beattie made stacks of money out this. Actually he’ll have made a loss out of Propco As we don’t know how the £2m has been distributed - either as per the original agreement or possibly amended in the sale and purchase agreement - how do you KNOW David Beattie lost money ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emsca Posted March 2, 2020 Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 5 hours ago, Garscube Road End said: As I have difficulty getting to games a season ticket is a way for me to invest some money into the club as well as purchasing merchandise. Is that OK or do I need your written permission. And no you cant have my season ticket. I do not wish my seat to be soiled. Yes i get that, which is why i said you were being philanthropic . It is very noble of you - don't be so defensive. Of course its OK and no you don't need my written permission on this occasion. Can you explain to me how your self styled boycott works? How would we know when you are in boycott as opposed to your normal position of just not attending games?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dl1971 Posted March 2, 2020 Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Emsca said: Yes i get that, which is why i said you were being philanthropic . It is very noble of you - don't be so defensive. Of course its OK and no you don't need my written permission on this occasion. Can you explain to me how your self styled boycott works? How would we know when you are in boycott as opposed to your normal position of just not attending games?? Perhaps GRE will be outside firhill with a FATHER TED type banner stating " Down with this thing" Aka full boycott mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordanhill Jag Posted March 2, 2020 Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, javeajag said: As we don’t know how the £2m has been distributed - either as per the original agreement or possibly amended in the sale and purchase agreement - how do you KNOW David Beattie lost money ? My info was they got there Money Back they put into Shares & Propco - Zero Interest- and No it wasn't someones Pal who told me On Propco technically a loss - as they were expecting some interest on the cash they put in However the thing that I laugh it lots of TFE "Supporters" on Twitter slagging off Beattie etc - same on here - but the TFE Bid gave them a return on Propco which wasnt on the Table from Conway & Co - so the guy they were all slagging doubled his Money !!! Edited March 2, 2020 by Jordanhill Jag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy Posted March 2, 2020 Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 6 hours ago, javeajag said: Where did I say that ?! Find it please Posters might have more respect for your views if you had the humility to admit you were sometimes wrong. Just saying. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garscube Road End Posted March 2, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 1 hour ago, dl1971 said: Perhaps GRE will be outside firhill with a FATHER TED type banner stating " Down with this thing" Aka full boycott mode. Now. There's an idea. Pity I dont make it to Firhill . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garscube Road End Posted March 2, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 7 minutes ago, sandy said: Posters might have more respect for your views if you had the humility to admit you were sometimes wrong. Just saying. More chance of me going to matches than that happening Sandy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted March 2, 2020 Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 I'm not sure if it's a case on here of some folk taking themselves too seriously, or some folk on here taking the opinions of others too seriously, but a reality check every now and again is surely in order. Just because a poster for a plethora of reasons doesn't currently attend Jags games shouldn't preclude that same poster from posting on a plethora of Jags related topics. After all the same punter may well have previously attended many times over the number of games a current regular attender has done. As a slight aside I find opinionated posts from punters that weren't at a particular game rather tedious. But at the same time I can value the opinions of those watching thru the likes of Jagzone re individual decisions over handballs penalty decisions etc. But that's just me. Kinda feel that when things go awry on here it's largely down to things being taken (as opposed to being meant) too seriously. In saying so I've probably walked into my own trap a la Zimmerman "my enemy in the instant that I preach". Whatever, whether the likes of GRE regularly attends games or doesn't is largely irrelevant. Still don't think a boycott is appropriate. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodstock Jag Posted March 2, 2020 Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 6 hours ago, javeajag said: Where did I say that ?! Find it please Found out. Again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Jag Posted March 2, 2020 Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, lady-isobel-barnett said: I'm not sure if it's a case on here of some folk taking themselves too seriously, or some folk on here taking the opinions of others too seriously, but a reality check every now and again is surely in order. Just because a poster for a plethora of reasons doesn't currently attend Jags games shouldn't preclude that same poster from posting on a plethora of Jags related topics. After all the same punter may well have previously attended many times over the number of games a current regular attender has done. As a slight aside I find opinionated posts from punters that weren't at a particular game rather tedious. But at the same time I can value the opinions of those watching thru the likes of Jagzone re individual decisions over handballs penalty decisions etc. But that's just me. Kinda feel that when things go awry on here it's largely down to things being taken (as opposed to being meant) too seriously. In saying so I've probably walked into my own trap a la Zimmerman "my enemy in the instant that I preach". Whatever, whether the likes of GRE regularly attends games or doesn't is largely irrelevant. Still don't think a boycott is appropriate. In my opinion your opinion is correct, but others opinions may differ. Edited March 2, 2020 by Auld Jag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted March 2, 2020 Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Jordanhill Jag said: My info was they got there Money Back they put into Shares & Propco - Zero Interest- and No it wasn't someones Pal who told me On Propco technically a loss - as they were expecting some interest on the cash they put in However the thing that I laugh it lots of TFE "Supporters" on Twitter slagging off Beattie etc - same on here - but the TFE Bid gave them a return on Propco which wasnt on the Table from Conway & Co - so the guy they were all slagging doubled his Money !!! Not too sure what this bit means? Are you saying Beattie DID double his money? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy Posted March 2, 2020 Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 2 hours ago, lady-isobel-barnett said: I'm not sure if it's a case on here of some folk taking themselves too seriously, or some folk on here taking the opinions of others too seriously, but a reality check every now and again is surely in order. Just because a poster for a plethora of reasons doesn't currently attend Jags games shouldn't preclude that same poster from posting on a plethora of Jags related topics. After all the same punter may well have previously attended many times over the number of games a current regular attender has done. As a slight aside I find opinionated posts from punters that weren't at a particular game rather tedious. But at the same time I can value the opinions of those watching thru the likes of Jagzone re individual decisions over handballs penalty decisions etc. But that's just me. Kinda feel that when things go awry on here it's largely down to things being taken (as opposed to being meant) too seriously. In saying so I've probably walked into my own trap a la Zimmerman "my enemy in the instant that I preach". Whatever, whether the likes of GRE regularly attends games or doesn't is largely irrelevant. Still don't think a boycott is appropriate. Sir, you are a truly reliable Jags philosopher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordanhill Jag Posted March 2, 2020 Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 1 hour ago, scotty said: Not too sure what this bit means? Are you saying Beattie DID double his money? No - they were only getting paid for the Shares with Conway etc - TFE stepped in and added Propco as well which was never on offer from Conway etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted March 2, 2020 Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 5 hours ago, sandy said: Posters might have more respect for your views if you had the humility to admit you were sometimes wrong. Just saying. I am happy to admit I was wrong if I am so show where I said David Beattie made loads of money from propco and I will.....if you can’t you should do the same which seems fair to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted March 2, 2020 Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 5 hours ago, Jordanhill Jag said: My info was they got there Money Back they put into Shares & Propco - Zero Interest- and No it wasn't someones Pal who told me On Propco technically a loss - as they were expecting some interest on the cash they put in However the thing that I laugh it lots of TFE "Supporters" on Twitter slagging off Beattie etc - same on here - but the TFE Bid gave them a return on Propco which wasnt on the Table from Conway & Co - so the guy they were all slagging doubled his Money !!! That may very well be the case - which would support the point you and I have always agreed on that propco was a very poor investment- and if so the club should get c£900k unless something has changed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted March 2, 2020 Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 4 hours ago, Woodstock Jag said: Found out. Again. So where did I say it ? if you cant find it just say so, if you can I will happily admit I was wrong.....fair ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted March 3, 2020 Report Share Posted March 3, 2020 5 hours ago, javeajag said: So where did I say it ? if you cant find it just say so, if you can I will happily admit I was wrong.....fair ? Who cares? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted March 3, 2020 Report Share Posted March 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Jaggernaut said: Who cares? I do a bit as I don’t like being misrepresented Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordanhill Jag Posted March 3, 2020 Report Share Posted March 3, 2020 10 hours ago, javeajag said: That may very well be the case - which would support the point you and I have always agreed on that propco was a very poor investment- and if so the club should get c£900k unless something has changed The Club either gets £900K or it gets the Land returned as stated - and it offsets the £900K Its one or the other - obviously the agreement from Propco Directors was that it was getting returned to the Club ( Timescales were 7 Days ) - same as the Shares were being handed to the Fans by March 20 Now as Woodside Jag as been at pains to point out - 3BC continue as before - there is nothing to stop either Propco or Shares being handed over ? ( if there is - that should be stated publicly and in detail - not PR Speak ) The only thing that the Weir Estate with 3BC can do - is remove Directors - the Running and decisions of 3BC are with its Directors - again as pointed out by WJ in far better legal terms than myself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted March 3, 2020 Report Share Posted March 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Jordanhill Jag said: The Club either gets £900K or it gets the Land returned as stated - and it offsets the £900K Its one or the other - obviously the agreement from Propco Directors was that it was getting returned to the Club ( Timescales were 7 Days ) - same as the Shares were being handed to the Fans by March 20 Now as Woodside Jag as been at pains to point out - 3BC continue as before - there is nothing to stop either Propco or Shares being handed over ? ( if there is - that should be stated publicly and in detail - not PR Speak ) The only thing that the Weir Estate with 3BC can do - is remove Directors - the Running and decisions of 3BC are with its Directors - again as pointed out by WJ in far better legal terms than myself Unless there is something in the estate process that is stopping that happening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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