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Why not pay out the money based on lowest possible league position that any club can finish with the number of games to go. At least this would help keep clubs going and then can be adjusted depending on whether the season resumes or is called. Seems sensible, though am i missing something here?

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I think we’re fcuked unfortunately once again.This seems to be a big thing about clubs needing the money or going out of business now. We’ve obviously just spent a bit of cash in the window trying to stay in this division, it looks like we’re going down, so we’ve got these players on championship wages for 1 or 2 yr deals, will the SPFL bail us out if we’re going tits up financially with crowds of 1200  halfway through next season? No chance. absoute pish!

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Of course for the "authorities" of Scottish football PTFC can be kicked around with ease. They've done it before, and they feel they can do it again. They know that we are toothless not only on the pitch (no major cup final in 50 years, managed the top 6 of the top league briefly once in even longer; basically for them we bring nothing of note to the game), but also off it (relatively small fan base, no financial clout, a reputation for meekness at club and fan level).

Their decision should come as no surprise to anybody. 

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I agree that we have put this on ourselves and this solution is better than null and voiding it, it means QOTS a club we are 2 points behind with a game in hand and due to play a play-off stay up, and also Brechin cut adrift at the bottom of the league with a play- off also stay up while not rewarding Kelty and Bora for finishing top of the lowland and highland league.

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46 minutes ago, Auld Jag said:

If the votes have to be in by 5pm on Friday, why do we need to wait until next week to know the outcome. Also if league reconstruction is going to be discussed if this is voted through, why not discuss it just now and then have a vote?

Seriously?? There is no league reconstruction on the table! It is just pish to try and get clubs to vote the way the want. Once they get what they want they will say ahh there was no appetite for change. Don't be so gullible and don't believe for one second that Thistle don't know and agree we will be relegated!

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18 minutes ago, Pinhead said:

Seriously?? There is no league reconstruction on the table! It is just pish to try and get clubs to vote the way the want. Once they get what they want they will say ahh there was no appetite for change. Don't be so gullible and don't believe for one second that Thistle don't know and agree we will be relegated!

Far too early to come to any decisions until we see where the pandemic takes us unless there is pressure from somewhere else , though I’m not sure that is a factor as there is no European places element involved.    If they do come to that decision take them all the way through the courts which will hold up next season,  I’m sure Hearts will be thinking on the same lines .

 

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6 hours ago, Auld Jag said:

If the votes have to be in by 5pm on Friday, why do we need to wait until next week to know the outcome. Also if league reconstruction is going to be discussed if this is voted through, why not discuss it just now and then have a vote?

Why do we need to wait until next week? Because they probably learned their lesson back in 2004 when the SPL chairmen voted to keep Thistle in the SPL and refuse ICT promotion............ and we all know how that ended up, don't we :censor:  This way they can do their horse trading over the weekend and remove the need for a 2nd vote.

As to why they want a vote before discussion of reconstruction, well call me a cynic but once they get the result they are after they could then conveniently drop plans for reconstruction or simply drag discussions on long enough to effectively time them out.

The bottom line is I simply don't believe the SPFL want league reconstruction, however clubs like Thistle and Stranraer are causing them a major problem so they have come up with this plan to get the other clubs to vote to relegate us thus doing their dirty work for them. Offering the carrot of league reconstruction will probably make the pill easier to swallow for some clubs and may be enough to swing the vote. Once they have the result they want they then pull the league reconstruction rug away from under the feet of the clubs whilst simultaneously pointing the finger of blame for us being relegated at the clubs and not themselves.

As you can probably work out from the above I have absolutely no faith whatsoever in the SPFL and fully expect us to get royally shafted!

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9 hours ago, cyprusjag said:

Any decision should be based any situation where a full season cannot be completed for whatever reason.This is something which should have already have been put in place.

The decision should apply if 25% ,50%,or 75%  or whatever remains to be played. Would you promote / relegate a team if 75% or 50% still had to be played? Of course not.

What happens when a game is abandoned, which is effectively what  has happened to this season. Do we award the points based on the score at abandonment? Of course not.

If the season cannot be extended to complete the games then the season is NULL AND VOID. Nobody wins and nobody loses. Money can be shared out based on points accumulated.In my opinion more clubs would vote for that than against

But then Sellic would not get another title to add to their list and we cannot possibly have that.

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Other things about this vote.

Why do Premiership teams vote on what is to happen in the other 3 leagues? 

Also, For the resolution to pass, nine Premiership clubs, eight Championship, and 15 in Leagues One and Two combined need to vote in favour,

so what happens if they fall short on this eg Only 8 Premiership vote in favour, but they get the required votes in the other leagues, does that means it doesn’t pass?

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8 hours ago, Jaggernaut said:

Of course for the "authorities" of Scottish football PTFC can be kicked around with ease. They've done it before, and they feel they can do it again. They know that we are toothless not only on the pitch (no major cup final in 50 years, managed the top 6 of the top league briefly once in even longer; basically for them we bring nothing of note to the game), but also off it (relatively small fan base, no financial clout, a reputation for meekness at club and fan level).

Their decision should come as no surprise to anybody. 

And if as some on here are suggesting we just bend over and take it, we will continue to be shafted time and time again ( and deservedly so) . 

We need to take a firm stance and tell them if they relegate us, our resignation notice will be in the post.

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33 minutes ago, Emsca said:

And if as some on here are suggesting we just bend over and take it, we will continue to be shafted time and time again ( and deservedly so) . 

We need to take a firm stance and tell them if they relegate us, our resignation notice will be in the post.

Great plan.

SPFL ... "thankyou very much ..... Brora, it appears we have a place for you after all"

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We aren't going to be back to normal by the 18th of May.

I said weeks ago the season was over. You didn't have to be Michael Burry to correctly predict the way this would all unfold. All the talk about league reconstruction was always wishful thinking. If the club are doing anything other than preparing to play in the third tier whenever the next season starts then whoever is running it needs a wake-up call.

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In effect this is a Duckworth Lewis solution to the issue and there are other examples of sports being forced to change -even pseudo sports like Formula 1 and golf. The issue here is that in football it is unheard of. Many years ago Hibs were 2-0 up at Parkhead with about 3 mins to go - the match was abandoned due to fog,,, what!!!? Replay was 1-1. But that was the rule. Now it appears that 75%  of a season is the new rule. 

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My thoughts on the vote:

SPL  9 YES  3 NO (Hearts, Rangers, Aberdeen)

Champ 7 YES  3 NO (Thistle, Inverness, Dundee)

Div 1  5 YES  5 NO (Stranraer, Falkirk, Airdrie, Montrose, East Fife)

Div 2  6 YES  4 NO (Edinburgh City,  Elgin, Cowdenbeath, Queens Park)

TOTAL 27 YES  15 NO

YES percentage is 64%

Just my predictions, although some could be financially seduced to change their vote.

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56 minutes ago, West of Scotland said:

We aren't going to be back to normal by the 18th of May.

I said weeks ago the season was over. You didn't have to be Michael Burry to correctly predict the way this would all unfold. All the talk about league reconstruction was always wishful thinking. If the club are doing anything other than preparing to play in the third tier whenever the next season starts then whoever is running it needs a wake-up call.

It depends on ‘normal’....most countries want to get past Easter then begin phase 2......Austria, Denmark Sweden Spain and Italy already beginning this ( 5 week lockdowns looks an average) U.K. govt looking at opening primary schools ( looks like young kids don’t even get the virus ) and getting younger people back to some kind of work 

interestingly Jet2 say they will restart flying in June 17 

so normal could be games behind close doors in June 

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