javeajag Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 I understand if the vote goes through today we will launch legal action after having taken initial legal advice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinhead Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 1 minute ago, javeajag said: I understand if the vote goes through today we will launch legal action after having taken initial legal advice I do not believe for one second we will do that and i also do not believe we would win. If this legal advice has come in any way shape or form with influence of Miss Low i expect us to be bankrupt before Christmas! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlsarmy Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, javeajag said: I understand if the vote goes through today we will launch legal action after having taken initial legal advice If Thistle , Rangers and Hearts go down that road , I don’t think it’ll happen , due to the time involved going through the process of litigation The other implications are Sky and BT Sport paying out money on an incomplete season . From a supporters point of view , lots of disgruntled fans wanting some sort of refund for games they didn’t see. Edited April 10, 2020 by jlsarmy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 What about teams like Queens Park? They seem to have come into a bit of money lately so maybe not as affected by the prize money. Maybe they will vote no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avie-man Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 Will be boycotting any club who votes against us. There will be diddy clubs like Clyde in the league below who want the cash from our support. Sadly too many people in our fanbase are spineless so can never see this working as a collective. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaf Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 50 minutes ago, javeajag said: I understand if the vote goes through today we will launch legal action after having taken initial legal advice People are losing lives, jobs and businesses. The PR optics of taking legal action against that backdrop look dubious to me. thats just to the public - to the clubs we have denied a payout, we will also be unpopular. We certainly wont be the cuddly toy anymore. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avie-man Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 1 minute ago, jaf said: People are losing lives, jobs and businesses. The PR optics of taking legal action against that backdrop look dubious to me. thats just to the public - to the clubs we have denied a payout, we will also be unpopular. We certainly wont be the cuddly toy anymore. Good. For too long we've taken things on the chin. Fans will help out with legal fees if need be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 14 minutes ago, avie-man said: Good. For too long we've taken things on the chin. Fans will help out with legal fees if need be. Are you going to finance the legal challenge? If so great, if not then you're all hot air! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gianlucatoni Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Third Lanark said: What about teams like Queens Park? They seem to have come into a bit of money lately so maybe not as affected by the prize money. Maybe they will vote no they've still got wages to pay unfortunately Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 (edited) Tbh, I think legal action will just cost us money and be ultimately fruitless. We have a better chance if we influence the vote and create an alternative outcome. Edited April 10, 2020 by sandy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 Apparently Dumbarton are voting no. Always had a soft spot for the sons of the rock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaphod Beeblebrox Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 I think Legal action is only worthwhile if we are joining a group of teams looking to take action (Hearts, Falkirk, Stranraer & Sevco). To go it alone what be wasting money and if anyone remembers our last legal challenge we were painted as the baddie denying poor little Inverness their promotion even though their stadium didn't comply and ground sharing wasn't allowed. It would be worst PR given what is actually happening across the world. I also hope we are being proactive. Its fine saying we dont accept this but Hopefully we have been reaching out to other clubs and coming up with alternative solutions. I do believe I can see a number of teams voting against this especially those in a playoff position. I know money is the big issue but surely something could be reached in paying all clubs in each respective division an equal sum of money. This then could be taken into account in next seasons prize money and giving teams only the prize money minus any additional money paid out in the previous based on the respective league positions once the season is finished. Big question still remains when the season could be restarted, If at all but i think if you are giving one league the chance to finish then you have to give all leagues a chance to finish even if these games have to be played behind closed doors. I think a more practical solution is to compress the season, there are only 8(9) games left. This could be played within 5 weeks and reduce each playoff game to 1 leg. So assuming a mid August start season could be over be end of September. Cancel League and Challenge cups and front and end load games leaving the winter fixture schedule similar to normal. Only other option is the league reconstruction. Even in a simple form of no relegation and all league winners promoted, including that of Lowland and Highland Leagues. Then producing an end result of a 12-12 10-10 league set up. Not the major reconstruction everyone apart from the elite want but would help resolve the situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordanhill Jag Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 2 hours ago, javeajag said: I understand if the vote goes through today we will launch legal action after having taken initial legal advice This is nonsense - you cant take legal action in Football - you have to go through the Appeals Procedure - SFA - EUFA - Sporting Arbitration Court As we are a member Club of the SPFL - we would be suing ourselves - I wish that we could stop the Spin Nonsense We are in this position because we are at prime candidates for relegation - if we weren't - we would vote in interests of the Club - same as everyone else is doing Im assuming the Board will be personally funding any legal action or 3BC Funding it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen1876 Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 If I was a fan of say Ayr, Airdrie, Inverness etc and my club voted in favour of this, I would be fuming. These clubs are in with a chance of going up and to be blackmailed into losing that would be awful as a fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 Bundesliga announced they plan to restart matches in May - no fans - and finish season by end of June Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garscube Road End Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 8 minutes ago, javeajag said: Bundesliga announced they plan to restart matches in May - no fans - and finish season by end of June At least Germany seems to have a far better handle on this contagion than our motley crew. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 Also hearing Falkirk to take legal action Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaf Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 21 minutes ago, Garscube Road End said: At least Germany seems to have a far better handle on this contagion than our motley crew. Football stadiums have been used as testing centres (well at least I know Dortmund has) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 1 minute ago, jaf said: Football stadiums have been used as testing centres (well at least I know Dortmund has) Check it’s an official announcement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 23 minutes ago, Garscube Road End said: At least Germany seems to have a far better handle on this contagion than our motley crew. Agreed.....We could start a month later in June play Saturday and Wednesday and complete the leagues that month Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 https://talksport.com/football/692995/bayern-munich-borussia-dortmund-bundesliga-return-may-coronavirus/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlgarveJag Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 Are we assuming that if the season is ended, that that applies to the cups as well as the leagues? Are ICT and Raith voting to end the league season but expect to play a cup final? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 Dundee voting against according to the courier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaf Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 9 minutes ago, javeajag said: Check it’s an official announcement I never said it wasn't I was just stating something factually accurate which has been happening, ie Dortmund have been using their stadium (since last Friday) as a testing centre https://www.bvb.de/News/Uebersicht/SIGNAL-IDUNA-PARK-wird-Corona-Behandlungszentrum Everything doesn't need to be an adversarial pissing competition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlsarmy Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 48 minutes ago, Jordanhill Jag said: This is nonsense - you cant take legal action in Football - you have to go through the Appeals Procedure - SFA - EUFA - Sporting Arbitration Court As we are a member Club of the SPFL - we would be suing ourselves - I wish that we could stop the Spin Nonsense We are in this position because we are at prime candidates for relegation - if we weren't - we would vote in interests of the Club - same as everyone else is doing Im assuming the Board will be personally funding any legal action or 3BC Funding it Not true Aberdeen and Hibs aren’t doing it for their own good , think they’ve looking at the big big picture and I’m sure Anne Budge etc are meaning they will take it as far as they can legally whether that’s FIFA etc or the Court of Sporting Arbitration and you would be suing the governing bodies who run the Associations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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