jaf Posted April 16, 2020 Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 5 minutes ago, jlsarmy said: Can’t base the future of our Club on a maybe, legally challenge the procedures to show we’re not going to lie down. The legal challenge in itself of course being “a maybe” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Peebles Tackle Posted April 16, 2020 Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Dick Dastardly said: Would we be better petitioning for and and getting a mandate for the independent inquiry into the dealings that went on. I'm sure that there are many clubs who voted yes who are not happy with how it was conducted. Worst case is that this shamble might never happen again. Best case would be a change in the SPFL executive and some fresh thinking. My thinking is now, sadly, that if we don't go down the legal route (whatever it may be) we WILL be ignored. Once the money has been paid, that will be that. Game over. We may get reconstruction, we may not. One thing I'm sure of though - we will be ignored. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlsarmy Posted April 16, 2020 Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, jaf said: The legal challenge in itself of course being “a maybe” It is Jaf , but crucially it’s buying us time for meaningful dialogue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaf Posted April 16, 2020 Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 1 minute ago, jlsarmy said: It is Jaf , but crucially it’s buying us time for meaningful dialogue. But is it? see previous posts. they surely just re run the vote and get same result? our alternative will be less popular for the reasons already explained. so what do we truly achieve apart from playing to the gallery and getting a bill? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon Posted April 16, 2020 Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 (edited) Amazing DonkeyCuntst3r earns more in a year than what a fair chunk of individual lower league clubs are getting in blood, I mean, prize money. Edited April 16, 2020 by Dragon shocking spelling - it's the rage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gianlucatoni Posted April 16, 2020 Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 (edited) Gerrard statement effectively telling us that the h*ns have nothing ... "It's a bit of a mess" he says. Game over. Check mate. Edited April 16, 2020 by gianlucatoni 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exiledjag Posted April 16, 2020 Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 1 hour ago, watties wallies said: this 100% Count me in! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordanhill Jag Posted April 16, 2020 Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 34 minutes ago, Norgethistle said: What legal action could we honestly take and to where? We are in fact part of a members club, we pay our dues and we get to be part of it and abide by the rules and decisions made by the members and its committee, basically the same as a bowling club without the cheap drinks. If we are not happy with its running or decisions the choices we have (as part of the members club) is either petition to change/appeal from within, or resign our membership. I doubt if a court would see this as a criminal or civil matter. Ethically it is wrong, and it stinks to high heaven but I really don't see what we can do. I do not recall any football club taking its league to an outside court, highest I've seen is sporting court of arbitration We took the SPL To Court when they allowed a relaxation of the 10,000 Seat Stadium Rule to allow Inverness to be promoted and we got relegated - the Court Whilst Sympathetic ruled it was up a Sporting Issue and not for the Courts to get involved in - they would rule the exact same again We can Appeal top the SFA - EUFA and the Sport Arbitration Court - thats it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exiledjag Posted April 16, 2020 Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 Appears we have a hearts fighting our corner so some hope (a slim one) we will still be in championship next season. I would love tn belt The SPFL with legal action but it won't do any good and cost a money (a lot) that would be better used building a better squad. The best way to stick it up this shower is to win whatever league we are in and to keep winning. That's the way to do it! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlsarmy Posted April 16, 2020 Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 Good to see in the papers that they think we’ve got the power to curtail things with a Court Interdict , do nothing as somebody has said it really is game over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted April 16, 2020 Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, exiledjag said: Appears we have a hearts fighting our corner so some hope (a slim one) we will still be in championship next season. I would love tn belt The SPFL with legal action but it won't do any good and cost a money (a lot) that would be better used building a better squad. The best way to stick it up this shower is to win whatever league we are in and to keep winning. That's the way to do it! Winning that league will be a struggle. We will probably need to re-build a whole squad, that squad may also be part-time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West of Scotland Posted April 16, 2020 Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 51 minutes ago, sabbath said: Ah you can't beat the good old Chamberlain approach and appeasement. I have here in my hand a piece of paper, the last toilet roll from Tesco's. Delete your account and leave the internet entirely. What an absolute stain. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlsarmy Posted April 16, 2020 Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 6 minutes ago, exiledjag said: Appears we have a hearts fighting our corner so some hope (a slim one) we will still be in championship next season. I would love tn belt The SPFL with legal action but it won't do any good and cost a money (a lot) that would be better used building a better squad. The best way to stick it up this shower is to win whatever league we are in and to keep winning. That's the way to do it! That would be great in theory , but the financial implications are huge , we’ve went from approximately a 4 million turnover 3 years ago to possibly a turnover of circa 1 million if we get relegated. At this point, the infrastructure of the Club comes into question, messed around with an Academy for the last 5/6 years , we’ve not got a batch of youngsters to come through and even play at a lower level. Definately got to be a rethink on where we go as a Club, I personally would go with the youngsters over a period of time , rather than getting landed with journeymen players like McKinnon, Miller , Cardle , Harkins trying to get a final payday before they retire . Big rethink on where we go as a Club 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laukat Posted April 16, 2020 Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 36 minutes ago, gianlucatoni said: Gerrard statement effectively telling us that the h*ns have nothing ... "It's a bit of a mess" he says. Game over. Check mate. Agree. If Sevco management were ever seriously upset by this they would been the first to threaten legal action and would have issued a statement or 5 by now. Getting Gerrard to talk to the press and effectively say 'its not been handled well but we accept' implies that were never seriously against the proposal they just had to make the right noises to keep their fans onboard. As others have said the legal route is pointless. If we are relegated the only action that can be taken is a fans boycott of away games and put our money back into Thistle. Won't register in the SPL but in leagues 1 and the championship it will have an effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinnyjag Posted April 16, 2020 Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 39 minutes ago, exiledjag said: Appears we have a hearts fighting our corner so some hope (a slim one) we will still be in championship next season. I would love tn belt The SPFL with legal action but it won't do any good and cost a money (a lot) that would be better used building a better squad. The best way to stick it up this shower is to win whatever league we are in and to keep winning. That's the way to do it! It would be outstanding if due to some miraculous improvements in the current pandemic, the Premier League was able to resume and one of the f**kwit clubs who voted yes got relegated. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Legend Blows Posted April 16, 2020 Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 7 of next season's 9 League 1 opponents have plastic pitches. Canny wait for the season to kick off now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emsca Posted April 16, 2020 Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 1 hour ago, exiledjag said: Appears we have a hearts fighting our corner so some hope (a slim one) we will still be in championship next season. I would love tn belt The SPFL with legal action but it won't do any good and cost a money (a lot) that would be better used building a better squad. The best way to stick it up this shower is to win whatever league we are in and to keep winning. That's the way to do it! But that's exactly the outcome they want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted April 16, 2020 Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 3 hours ago, Emsca said: So just accept it but take some hush money? Well, all you seem to be saying is that anything we do will be pointless..... in other words, we just accept it and that's it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaf Posted April 16, 2020 Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, jlsarmy said: That would be great in theory , but the financial implications are huge , we’ve went from approximately a 4 million turnover 3 years ago to possibly a turnover of circa 1 million if we get relegated. At this point, the infrastructure of the Club comes into question, messed around with an Academy for the last 5/6 years , we’ve not got a batch of youngsters to come through and even play at a lower level. Definately got to be a rethink on where we go as a Club, I personally would go with the youngsters over a period of time , rather than getting landed with journeymen players like McKinnon, Miller , Cardle , Harkins trying to get a final payday before they retire . Big rethink on where we go as a Club “Going with youngsters over a period” - ahhh, the Barnsley model!!! (Sorry I know it’s no time for humour, but if you didn’t laugh you would cry) Edited April 16, 2020 by jaf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted April 16, 2020 Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 Anybody else notice that the McParland training complex appears to have slipped off the radar....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlsarmy Posted April 16, 2020 Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, jaf said: “Going with youngsters over a period” - ahhh, the Barnsley model!!! (Sorry I know it’s no time for humour, but if you didn’t laugh you would cry) What’s the point of the Academy then ? , we’ve got youngsters within the system who’ve got a chance Billy Owens , Andy Rodden , Dean Watson. Bradley Renfrew but they’re not been given a chance to play football with no u 20s League. Lets go with your plan and get Harkins back from Stenny on a 2 year deal on 2k a week . On our limited budget what kind of players do you think we’ll get for approximately £300 per week . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted April 16, 2020 Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 1 minute ago, jlsarmy said: What’s the point of the Academy then ? , we’ve got youngsters within the system who’ve got a chance Billy Owens , Andy Rodden , Dean Watson. Bradley Renfrew but they’re not been given a chance to play football with no u 20s League. Lets go with your plan and get Harkins back from Stenny on a 2 year deal on 2k a week . On our limited budget what kind of players do you think we’ll get for approximately £300 per week . Please don’t tell me Harkins was on 2 grand a week? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted April 16, 2020 Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, jlsarmy said: What’s the point of the Academy then ? , we’ve got youngsters within the system who’ve got a chance Billy Owens , Andy Rodden , Dean Watson. Bradley Renfrew but they’re not been given a chance to play football with no u 20s League. Lets go with your plan and get Harkins back from Stenny on a 2 year deal on 2k a week . On our limited budget what kind of players do you think we’ll get for approximately £300 per week . If they were good eneough they would have been given a chance either with us or out at loan at another club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagtastic Posted April 16, 2020 Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 39 minutes ago, The Legend Blows said: 7 of next season's 9 League 1 opponents have plastic pitches. Canny wait for the season to kick off now. Hopefully most jags fans will only be inclined to visit two of them anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlsarmy Posted April 16, 2020 Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 Just now, Norgethistle said: If they were good eneough they would have been given a chance either with us or out at loan at another club Trouble is Norge we don’t know if they’re good enough , I’ve seen all of these players play and I think they’ve all got a chance , trouble is now what level to do you put them to now to progress, League 2 or the Juniors . No point of an Academy if we don’t give them a chance , some will make it , some won’t . In the Championship, fighting a relegation battle, there is no chance that McCall will go with inexperienced youngsters, if we are in a different division next year surely there has got be some sort of infrastructure and give the youngsters some sort of pathway to the first team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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