One t in Scotland Posted May 24, 2020 Report Share Posted May 24, 2020 36 minutes ago, lady-isobel-barnett said: Mothballing the lower leagues sums up Scottish Football nicely. Your Div One club gets to vote on relegating a club that possibly could start the season playing behind closed doors. Instead that club finds itself in a league that can't even start their fixtures never mind fulfil them. The EFL are very specific on this: 'The principle of relegation across all three divisions is integral to the integrity of the pyramid, from the Premier League down to the National League, provided we have assurances that the National League will start season 2020/21 (i.e. the relegated Club in League Two has somewhere to play).' 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted May 24, 2020 Report Share Posted May 24, 2020 20 minutes ago, Alan Murray said: The costs of testing will come down as many companies are devloping kits. It's a fast moving situation and think as someone said above the virus will decide what happens. I’m sure they will, but teams can’t commit to starting a season based on a chance that tests might come down in price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted May 24, 2020 Report Share Posted May 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, Dick Dastardly said: I’m sure they will, but teams can’t commit to starting a season based on a chance that tests might come down in price. Perhaps clubs need to look at a way of funding it. We have individual and team sponsorship why not COVID test sponsorship 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARu-Strathbungo Posted May 24, 2020 Report Share Posted May 24, 2020 Don't we need to be in a situation where the virus has been so heavily suppressed and the R number below 0.5 ? [I'm not sure of what the R number has to be for the virus to be classed as 'suppressed'] I think the footballing authorities will be looking for these tests to be a confirmation that the players are clear rather than being a part of the 'test , trace, isolate' procedure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted May 24, 2020 Report Share Posted May 24, 2020 Football is restarting across Europe .....Germany, Spain, Italy, Scandinavia etc etc.....mostly initially without fans but that may change.... the cost of testing is coming down eg Senegal are trialing a test that will cost $1... https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg24632823-700-cheap-and-easy-1-coronavirus-test-to-undergo-trials-in-senegal/ and other are doing the same in Asia In addition, the virus is on the wane and it may well mutate and disappear like SARS it’s not inevitable there is a second big wave..... Prof Karl Sikora today.... Here are the latest daily infection figures for the four European countries that eased their lockdowns back in mid-April (accelerating since). Denmark - 59 Norway - 14 Czech Republic - 77 Austria - 50 No second wave, not even a tiny ripple. Then there is the work on treatments and vaccines across the globe summer holidays In Europe are back on the agenda and so is football.... It might not be all doom and gloom! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlsarmy Posted May 24, 2020 Report Share Posted May 24, 2020 29 minutes ago, javeajag said: Football is restarting across Europe .....Germany, Spain, Italy, Scandinavia etc etc.....mostly initially without fans but that may change.... the cost of testing is coming down eg Senegal are trialing a test that will cost $1... https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg24632823-700-cheap-and-easy-1-coronavirus-test-to-undergo-trials-in-senegal/ and other are doing the same in Asia In addition, the virus is on the wane and it may well mutate and disappear like SARS it’s not inevitable there is a second big wave..... Prof Karl Sikora today.... Here are the latest daily infection figures for the four European countries that eased their lockdowns back in mid-April (accelerating since). Denmark - 59 Norway - 14 Czech Republic - 77 Austria - 50 No second wave, not even a tiny ripple. Then there is the work on treatments and vaccines across the globe summer holidays In Europe are back on the agenda and so is football.... It might not be all doom and gloom! Think you could be right , spoke to a doctor friend and he’s of the opinion the virus will blow itself out within the next couple of months with or without a vaccine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted May 24, 2020 Report Share Posted May 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, jlsarmy said: Think you could be right , spoke to a doctor friend and he’s of the opinion the virus will blow itself out within the next couple of months with or without a vaccine. Yes they often mutate themselves away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexander livingstone Posted May 24, 2020 Report Share Posted May 24, 2020 14 minutes ago, jlsarmy said: Think you could be right , spoke to a doctor friend and he’s of the opinion the virus will blow itself out within the next couple of months with or without a vaccine. Nobody knows WHO don't know and they are the experts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlsarmy Posted May 24, 2020 Report Share Posted May 24, 2020 14 minutes ago, alexander livingstone said: Nobody knows WHO don't know and they are the experts Nobody knows ,but the number of daily deaths in Scotland is almost down to single figures which has got to be a positive and providing there is no second wave it’s looking a bit more promising for the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted May 24, 2020 Report Share Posted May 24, 2020 Handy summary on current football status in European countries .... https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11881/11974437/coronavirus-what-is-the-state-of-play-in-europes-top-leagues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARu-Strathbungo Posted May 24, 2020 Report Share Posted May 24, 2020 1 hour ago, jlsarmy said: Think you could be right , spoke to a doctor friend and he’s of the opinion the virus will blow itself out within the next couple of months with or without a vaccine. The problem with this scenario is without cases you cant trial the vaccine effectively so it could be we have to adapt the a different way of living ….. perhaps in years to come seated football grounds will disappear to be replaced by terracing with safe standing areas, [this is something I could live with] Although it's a nice thought that the virus will disappear completely, I think that is a sort of 'Trump / Unicorns and Rainbows' way of thinking, more likely it is a virus we just learn to live with. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Jag Posted May 24, 2020 Report Share Posted May 24, 2020 We should never lose sight that one of the daily stats are deaths and no matter how small, it still means somebody has lost their life and a family is mourning a loved one, or in some cases more than 1 family member. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy Posted May 24, 2020 Report Share Posted May 24, 2020 5 hours ago, javeajag said: Yes they often mutate themselves away Do you have qualifications in virus studies, or just banking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted May 24, 2020 Report Share Posted May 24, 2020 1 hour ago, sandy said: Do you have qualifications in virus studies, or just banking? No I just read .....you should try it ...... https://www.livescience.com/coronavirus-mutations.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted May 24, 2020 Report Share Posted May 24, 2020 More optimistic update on the possible Oxford vaccine ....explains some of the issues raised as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinhead Posted May 24, 2020 Report Share Posted May 24, 2020 8 hours ago, javeajag said: Football is restarting across Europe .....Germany, Spain, Italy, Scandinavia etc etc.....mostly initially without fans but that may change.... the cost of testing is coming down eg Senegal are trialing a test that will cost $1... https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg24632823-700-cheap-and-easy-1-coronavirus-test-to-undergo-trials-in-senegal/ and other are doing the same in Asia In addition, the virus is on the wane and it may well mutate and disappear like SARS it’s not inevitable there is a second big wave..... Prof Karl Sikora today.... Here are the latest daily infection figures for the four European countries that eased their lockdowns back in mid-April (accelerating since). Denmark - 59 Norway - 14 Czech Republic - 77 Austria - 50 No second wave, not even a tiny ripple. Then there is the work on treatments and vaccines across the globe summer holidays In Europe are back on the agenda and so is football.... It might not be all doom and gloom! Senegal **** my life lol - you break you buy. Probably got more reliability from a chinese test Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted May 25, 2020 Report Share Posted May 25, 2020 9 hours ago, Pinhead said: Senegal **** my life lol - you break you buy. Probably got more reliability from a chinese test I would be a little less patronising given the shambles in the U.K. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/may/21/africa-coronavirus-successes-innovation-europe-us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Murray Posted May 25, 2020 Report Share Posted May 25, 2020 14 hours ago, sandy said: Do you have qualifications in virus studies, or just banking? It's one possibilty that many qualified people are talking about. This happened to Sars and Mers was a factor in both being contained successfully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colognejag Posted May 25, 2020 Report Share Posted May 25, 2020 22 hours ago, javeajag said: Football is restarting across Europe .....Germany, Spain, Italy, Scandinavia etc etc.....mostly initially without fans but that may change.... the cost of testing is coming down eg Senegal are trialing a test that will cost $1... https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg24632823-700-cheap-and-easy-1-coronavirus-test-to-undergo-trials-in-senegal/ and other are doing the same in Asia In addition, the virus is on the wane and it may well mutate and disappear like SARS it’s not inevitable there is a second big wave..... Prof Karl Sikora today.... Here are the latest daily infection figures for the four European countries that eased their lockdowns back in mid-April (accelerating since). Denmark - 59 Norway - 14 Czech Republic - 77 Austria - 50 No second wave, not even a tiny ripple. Then there is the work on treatments and vaccines across the globe summer holidays In Europe are back on the agenda and so is football.... It might not be all doom and gloom! 18 infected after going to a restaurant in Niedersachsen 50 infected in a church near Frankfurt 147 infected in a slaughterhouse on the Dutch/German border Wish I shared your optimism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McKennan Posted May 25, 2020 Report Share Posted May 25, 2020 On 5/24/2020 at 11:22 AM, lady-isobel-barnett said: Mothballing the lower leagues sums up Scottish Football nicely. Your Div One club gets to vote on relegating a club that possibly could start the season playing behind closed doors. Instead that club finds itself in a league that can't even start their fixtures never mind fulfil them. Part of me would not be surprised if the chancers who run the game thought they could cut League 1 and League 2 teams adrift. There would be a hell of a stushie, but I think these characters would stop at nothing to 'unburden' themselves from diluting the piss-poor prize pot they'll be crowing about when football 're-starts'. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyprusjag Posted May 25, 2020 Report Share Posted May 25, 2020 Think USA will be the key country in determining how soon we get back to normal.They are lifting restrictions particularly in Republican states and the next few weeks will show whether they are still infecting each other.If they are then all countries must ban entry of all USA travellers to ensure they do not spread the virus. Cyprus has already banned all UK and USA arrivals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinhead Posted May 25, 2020 Report Share Posted May 25, 2020 On 5/24/2020 at 11:22 AM, lady-isobel-barnett said: Mothballing the lower leagues sums up Scottish Football nicely. Your Div One club gets to vote on relegating a club that possibly could start the season playing behind closed doors. Instead that club finds itself in a league that can't even start their fixtures never mind fulfil them. I am out of likes but deffo this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exiledjag Posted May 25, 2020 Report Share Posted May 25, 2020 On 5/24/2020 at 11:22 AM, lady-isobel-barnett said: Mothballing the lower leagues sums up Scottish Football nicely. Your Div One club gets to vote on relegating a club that possibly could start the season playing behind closed doors. Instead that club finds itself in a league that can't even start their fixtures never mind fulfil them. This is why Falkirk are now pushing the SPFL to construct a football league or league consisting of clubs that can afford to play behind closed doors. In League 1 that would be Falkirk and us! Any other club? Here's hoping for Anne Budge and her reconstruction proposal though wouldn't surprise me if McLennan, given that PTFC made a public attack on him, did his best to keep us in League 1! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
partickthedog Posted May 25, 2020 Report Share Posted May 25, 2020 2 hours ago, exiledjag said: This is why Falkirk are now pushing the SPFL to construct a football league or league consisting of clubs that can afford to play behind closed doors. In League 1 that would be Falkirk and us! Any other club? Here's hoping for Anne Budge and her reconstruction proposal though wouldn't surprise me if McLennan, given that PTFC made a public attack on him, did his best to keep us in League 1! Falkirk and ourselves could contest the Forth and Clyde Canal League. Top 2 are promoted to the Championship and are replaced by the only two other teams reasonably proximate to the Canal, namely East Stirling and Kelpie Hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted May 25, 2020 Report Share Posted May 25, 2020 from Kheredine at bbc Away from Downing St, am told the @spfl Championship meeting discussed starting Scotland’s 2nd tier in Oct but clubs want comfort from @scotgov (Fri) that stadia will be able to reopen with 1/3rd capacity by Jan (eg 6-7000 @JamTarts ) to finance completion of 18 or 27 game season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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