Peaty FC Posted June 29, 2020 Report Share Posted June 29, 2020 3 hours ago, elevenone said: could be an extra 12k in the coffers which is good news. https://ptfc.co.uk/ptfc-news/season-ticket-2019-20-donations/ Sounds a fantastic route which presumably all clubs can benefit from if they have offered a refund on season tickets. I remain comforted in thistle and others taking action given there is not a single club out there that would not have been aggrieved if they had been in a similar position. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 Wigan Athletic become the first club in England to enter administration. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53247333 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowenBoys Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 21 minutes ago, Dick Dastardly said: Wigan Athletic become the first club in England to enter administration. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53247333 Would be harsh to give them a 12 point penalty under the circumstances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, BowenBoys said: Would be harsh to give them a 12 point penalty under the circumstances. I personally agree, but others might say harsh on the well run clubs if they don't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Dick Dastardly said: I personally agree, but others might say harsh on the well run clubs if they don't Aye but it's likely prudently run clubs will find themselves in administration as well. If Wigan are punished that'll mean all subsequent administrations will be dealt with a similar points penalty. No easy answer. Just as an aside I wonder if the SPFL are down-scaling the administration points penalty in proportion to the reduced number of fixtures a club will be playing. My guess is it hasn't even occurred to them. Edited July 1, 2020 by lady-isobel-barnett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Jag Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 Harsh to deduct points from any club that gets into money problems because of the COVID 19 crisis. But is it any more harsh than relegating clubs because of the COVID 19 crisis ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Jag Posted July 2, 2020 Report Share Posted July 2, 2020 (edited) League 1 to start 17th October. 27 game season. No mention of promotion or relegation, i take it will just be the usual champions promoted and bottom team relegated and play offs. Edited July 2, 2020 by Auld Jag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exiledjag Posted July 2, 2020 Report Share Posted July 2, 2020 I am not certain of my ground here, memory not as good as it used to be, but I recall that when it was anounced the Championship were considering a 27 game season M Gregor (Ross County) declared he was appalled by this idea! His inference being there should be no promotion to or relegation from the SPL!! I would assume if this is a popular idea with the SPFL then the same will apply to other Leagues! I wouldn't fancy the SPFL's chances of getting this through a vote! So why not give the SPFL Board executive powers so that formal voting is not required! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambies Lost Doo Posted July 2, 2020 Report Share Posted July 2, 2020 Thats me renewed my season ticket. The club needs it more than ever and (maybe its a slight on my personality) it's a big 2 V's to the majority of Scottish football. Im boycotting away games (but never go to any since kids appeared). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlsarmy Posted July 2, 2020 Report Share Posted July 2, 2020 14 minutes ago, exiledjag said: I am not certain of my ground here, memory not as good as it used to be, but I recall that when it was anounced the Championship were considering a 27 game season M Gregor (Ross County) declared he was appalled by this idea! His inference being there should be no promotion to or relegation from the SPL!! I would assume if this is a popular idea with the SPFL then the same will apply to other Leagues! I wouldn't fancy the SPFL's chances of getting this through a vote! So why not give the SPFL Board executive powers so that formal voting is not required! Would you really trust Doncaster and Co to administer the right decisions giving them executive powers ! They can’t even a conduct a vote properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Jag Posted July 2, 2020 Report Share Posted July 2, 2020 15 minutes ago, jlsarmy said: Would you really trust Doncaster and Co to administer the right decisions giving them executive powers ! They can’t even a conduct a vote properly. I think/hope exiledjag was being sarcastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted July 2, 2020 Report Share Posted July 2, 2020 On 7/1/2020 at 1:54 PM, lady-isobel-barnett said: Just as an aside I wonder if the SPFL are down-scaling the administration points penalty in proportion to the reduced number of fixtures a club will be playing. My guess is it hasn't even occurred to them. Absolutely spot on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Col Posted July 2, 2020 Report Share Posted July 2, 2020 On 7/1/2020 at 1:09 PM, Dick Dastardly said: Wigan Athletic become the first club in England to enter administration. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53247333 The Caldwell curse strikes again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted July 5, 2020 Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 Very interesting article regarding Norway’s take on COVID after backdating all the data. https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/norway-health-chief-lockdown-was-not-needed-to-tame-covid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted July 5, 2020 Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 7 minutes ago, Norgethistle said: Very interesting article regarding Norway’s take on COVID after backdating all the data. https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/norway-health-chief-lockdown-was-not-needed-to-tame-covid I think the most telling part is the quote at the end. "It is time to restore liberty and move to a voluntary system: to ask for continued caution but ask people to use common sense. The country is ready to be trusted. The question is whether the Prime Minister feels ready to trust us.!" This may be OK for the Norwegian population but I'm not so sure it pertains to the Great British public! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted July 5, 2020 Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 6 minutes ago, Norgethistle said: Very interesting article regarding Norway’s take on COVID after backdating all the data. https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/norway-health-chief-lockdown-was-not-needed-to-tame-covid This may well turn out to be the case. However, I wonder whether we would have voluntarily social distanced or wear masks if we hadn’t had the shutdown - even for a short period. Where I live, we have been urged to wear masks for several weeks, but I would say less than 1/3 of people wear masks in shops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted July 5, 2020 Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 18 minutes ago, scotty said: I think the most telling part is the quote at the end. "It is time to restore liberty and move to a voluntary system: to ask for continued caution but ask people to use common sense. The country is ready to be trusted. The question is whether the Prime Minister feels ready to trust us.!" This may be OK for the Norwegian population but I'm not so sure it pertains to the Great British public! That last statement shows why comparing an independent Scotland to Norway isn’t a reasoned argument. Sadly Cultural wise they are at different spectrums. We were asked to distance, and we did. UK (and Scotland) had to have draconian measures enforced by the police, yet were still broken. Kelvingrove park and Botanical Gardens being 2 examples. The day we announced bars were closing, people stayed away. The day UK announced the same the bars were mobbed with people try to get one last night out. The 2 countries are similar in size, only 540 miles apart (Same distance as Aberdeen to London) yet miles apart culturally wise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARu-Strathbungo Posted July 5, 2020 Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 51 minutes ago, scotty said: I think the most telling part is the quote at the end. "It is time to restore liberty and move to a voluntary system: to ask for continued caution but ask people to use common sense. The country is ready to be trusted. The question is whether the Prime Minister feels ready to trust us.!" This may be OK for the Norwegian population but I'm not so sure it pertains to the Great British public! scene from newcastle:- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted July 5, 2020 Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 30 minutes ago, Norgethistle said: That last statement shows why comparing an independent Scotland to Norway isn’t a reasoned argument. Sadly Cultural wise they are at different spectrums. We were asked to distance, and we did. UK (and Scotland) had to have draconian measures enforced by the police, yet were still broken. Kelvingrove park and Botanical Gardens being 2 examples. The day we announced bars were closing, people stayed away. The day UK announced the same the bars were mobbed with people try to get one last night out. The 2 countries are similar in size, only 540 miles apart (Same distance as Aberdeen to London) yet miles apart culturally wise. Don't forget that the british Prime Minister is not to be trusted; he's a serial liar, and he, his father, his chief scientific advisor, and his royal highness are all amongst those of that ilk who believed that lockdown rules apply not to them but only to the "ordinary" folk (whom they early on decided would be sacrificed in their tens of thousands). As you say, culturally very distant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted July 5, 2020 Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 7 minutes ago, ARu-Strathbungo said: scene from newcastle:- I had various friends posting on social media from pubs across England yesterday and the majority were pretty quiet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted July 5, 2020 Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Jaggernaut said: Don't forget that the british Prime Minister is not to be trusted; he's a serial liar, and he, his father, his chief scientific advisor, and his royal highness are all amongst those of that ilk who believed that lockdown rules apply not to them but only to the "ordinary" folk (whom they early on decided would be sacrificed in their tens of thousands). As you say, culturally very distant. As did Scotland’s chief medical officer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted July 5, 2020 Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 Just now, Norgethistle said: As did Scotland’s chief medical officer Yep, and she walked. None of those I quoted did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted July 5, 2020 Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 13 minutes ago, ARu-Strathbungo said: scene from newcastle:- Seems reasonably distanced 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted July 5, 2020 Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 18 minutes ago, ARu-Strathbungo said: scene from newcastle:- The way she's dressed that's more likely to be from last December! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted July 5, 2020 Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 57 minutes ago, Norgethistle said: That last statement shows why comparing an independent Scotland to Norway isn’t a reasoned argument. Sadly Cultural wise they are at different spectrums. We were asked to distance, and we did. UK (and Scotland) had to have draconian measures enforced by the police, yet were still broken. Kelvingrove park and Botanical Gardens being 2 examples. The day we announced bars were closing, people stayed away. The day UK announced the same the bars were mobbed with people try to get one last night out. The 2 countries are similar in size, only 540 miles apart (Same distance as Aberdeen to London) yet miles apart culturally wise. Maybe we should compare current Scotland to a pre-independent Norway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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