exiledjag Posted July 20, 2020 Report Share Posted July 20, 2020 1 hour ago, javeajag said: The current infection rate in Scotland is 10% of that of England ....yes 10%.....as soon as went our own way things improved Another reason why we should go our own way! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambies Lost Doo Posted July 20, 2020 Report Share Posted July 20, 2020 Care home deatgs, lack of PPE, shutdown timing, stopping other healthcare, schooling were all from Holyrood. If you compare Scotland deaths with similar size countries Ireland, Denmark, Norway I wouldn't be patting ourselves on the back. It will be years before we can guage the impact of this on our physical and mental health and economy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Jag Posted July 20, 2020 Report Share Posted July 20, 2020 The league cup is to start on the 6th October. All 42 league clubs will be taking part, Kelty and Brora will also be invited into the competition. It will start with the sections and bonus points as per last year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted July 20, 2020 Report Share Posted July 20, 2020 32 minutes ago, Lambies Lost Doo said: Care home deatgs, lack of PPE, shutdown timing, stopping other healthcare, schooling were all from Holyrood. If you compare Scotland deaths with similar size countries Ireland, Denmark, Norway I wouldn't be patting ourselves on the back. It will be years before we can guage the impact of this on our physical and mental health and economy. Care home deaths a global phenomenon ppe not as severe shortage as England and opened up own supply lines and created Scottish based production stopping other healthcare happens everywhere schooling ....don’t get your point schools due back next month the key point is that as soon as we set up our own expert group and diverged from Westminster things have improved so that now we have an infection rate 10% of England Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted July 20, 2020 Report Share Posted July 20, 2020 good news on the Oxford vaccine .....I’m sure @BowenBoys is pleased..... https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/jul/20/uk-coronavirus-live-updates-covid-19-test-trace-vaccine-latest-news Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Kent Jag II Posted July 20, 2020 Report Share Posted July 20, 2020 11 minutes ago, javeajag said: good news on the Oxford vaccine .....I’m sure @BowenBoys is pleased..... https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/jul/20/uk-coronavirus-live-updates-covid-19-test-trace-vaccine-latest-news Also today the use of interferon beta in an inhaled form can reduce the severity of the symptoms. I remember a New Scientist article from the late 1970s, when interferons were seen as a magic bullet for cancer. (From memory, there are about a dozen different variations of interferon.) That didn't really take off, but the protein family have been used ever since. I do have to say that interferon is a cytokene, and a cytokene overload was what caused breathing problems in patients, so I wonder if it would be suitable for some, but not all patients. Good progress, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy Posted July 20, 2020 Report Share Posted July 20, 2020 18 minutes ago, javeajag said: Care home deaths a global phenomenon ppe not as severe shortage as England and opened up own supply lines and created Scottish based production stopping other healthcare happens everywhere schooling ....don’t get your point schools due back next month the key point is that as soon as we set up our own expert group and diverged from Westminster things have improved so that now we have an infection rate 10% of England Don’t over congratulate the Scottish Govt. While their messaging has been clearer than Westminster, and recent caution over easing restrictions has been wise, mistakes have been made. Dismissing care home deaths as a global issue fails to acknowledge that we didn’t protect them and discharged patients from hospitals into care without testing them. Appalling. The legacy of putting cancer and other testing on hold is still to be quantified; there will be more deaths that could have been avoided. We don’t compare well with the likes of New Zealand; now THAT was leadership by Jacinda Arden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowenBoys Posted July 20, 2020 Report Share Posted July 20, 2020 30 minutes ago, javeajag said: good news on the Oxford vaccine .....I’m sure @BowenBoys is pleased..... https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/jul/20/uk-coronavirus-live-updates-covid-19-test-trace-vaccine-latest-news So far, so good. Now they just have to find out whether it actually works. Thanks for thinking about me x 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowenBoys Posted July 20, 2020 Report Share Posted July 20, 2020 12 minutes ago, sandy said: Don’t over congratulate the Scottish Govt. While their messaging has been clearer than Westminster, and recent caution over easing restrictions has been wise, mistakes have been made. Dismissing care home deaths as a global issue fails to acknowledge that we didn’t protect them and discharged patients from hospitals into care without testing them. Appalling. The legacy of putting cancer and other testing on hold is still to be quantified; there will be more deaths that could have been avoided. We don’t compare well with the likes of New Zealand; now THAT was leadership by Jacinda Arden. Not wishing to detract from what NZ have achieved - she is doing a great job - but helped by being a geographically isolated, sovereign nation with non-porous borders. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted July 20, 2020 Report Share Posted July 20, 2020 15 minutes ago, BowenBoys said: Not wishing to detract from what NZ have achieved - she is doing a great job - but helped by being a geographically isolated, sovereign nation with non-porous borders. Correct......Vietnam is a better example Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted July 20, 2020 Report Share Posted July 20, 2020 19 minutes ago, BowenBoys said: So far, so good. Now they just have to find out whether it actually works. Thanks for thinking about me x My pleasure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy Posted July 20, 2020 Report Share Posted July 20, 2020 16 minutes ago, BowenBoys said: Not wishing to detract from what NZ have achieved - she is doing a great job - but helped by being a geographically isolated, sovereign nation with non-porous borders. I wish the Jags had an equally non-porous defence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy Posted July 20, 2020 Report Share Posted July 20, 2020 1 minute ago, javeajag said: Correct......Vietnam is a better example And your broad brush statements on care home deaths - and suspended NHS services like cancer testing? I don’t think you really know much about health & social care... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambies Lost Doo Posted July 20, 2020 Report Share Posted July 20, 2020 1 hour ago, javeajag said: good news on the Oxford vaccine .....I’m sure @BowenBoys is pleased..... https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/jul/20/uk-coronavirus-live-updates-covid-19-test-trace-vaccine-latest-news An English vaccine? I want my own. Sourced and developed in my own border. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted July 20, 2020 Report Share Posted July 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Lambies Lost Doo said: An English vaccine? I want my own. Sourced and developed in my own border. I'm sure a lot of the work on the Oxford vaccine is being done by a Scotttish doctor, working in Los Angeles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARu-Strathbungo Posted July 21, 2020 Report Share Posted July 21, 2020 20 hours ago, javeajag said: Correct......Vietnam is a better example Vietnam is a very interesting case, the case count is low in both infections and deaths, and the thought is that people in that region of the world some sort of immunity to C-19 simply due to having been infected with similar 'coronavirus's' [SARS and the like] https://www.ft.com/content/5cf2ee49-df7a-4990-b337-860cf7737b2f Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted July 21, 2020 Report Share Posted July 21, 2020 1 hour ago, ARu-Strathbungo said: Vietnam is a very interesting case, the case count is low in both infections and deaths, and the thought is that people in that region of the world some sort of immunity to C-19 simply due to having been infected with similar 'coronavirus's' [SARS and the like] https://www.ft.com/content/5cf2ee49-df7a-4990-b337-860cf7737b2f Having been there earlier this year ... they took it seriously from the start Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowenBoys Posted July 21, 2020 Report Share Posted July 21, 2020 25 minutes ago, javeajag said: Having been there earlier this year ... they took it seriously from the start They weren't showing much inclination to prepare for it when I was there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted July 21, 2020 Report Share Posted July 21, 2020 44 minutes ago, BowenBoys said: They weren't showing much inclination to prepare for it when I was there. Strange .... they locked down an area near us that had a few cases .... every plane , ferry trip you got temperature checked , stopped Chinese tourists there biggest market segment .... and so far no deaths Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted July 21, 2020 Report Share Posted July 21, 2020 Worth a read https://the4thofficial.net/2020/07/anything-can-happen-in-football/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowenBoys Posted July 21, 2020 Report Share Posted July 21, 2020 19 minutes ago, javeajag said: Strange .... they locked down an area near us that had a few cases .... every plane , ferry trip you got temperature checked , stopped Chinese tourists there biggest market segment .... and so far no deaths Well, it was 1998 when I was there 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted July 21, 2020 Report Share Posted July 21, 2020 18 minutes ago, javeajag said: Worth a read https://the4thofficial.net/2020/07/anything-can-happen-in-football/ I think it's fair comment. There were no easy answers but the apparent desperation to call it so early has to be questioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy Posted July 21, 2020 Report Share Posted July 21, 2020 5 hours ago, javeajag said: Worth a read https://the4thofficial.net/2020/07/anything-can-happen-in-football/ Well it’s all speculation - and that can be bollocks. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaf Posted July 22, 2020 Report Share Posted July 22, 2020 8 hours ago, sandy said: Well it’s all speculation - and that can be bollocks. To begin with javeajag speculated that the spfl would delay until next week before even starting as a tactic. He was wrong. He then speculated they would drag it out to have the same effect. He was wrong. He then speculated the spfl would settle rather than go to arbitration. Guess what? Wrong. His next speculation was that this would take until Friday. And it looks like that was wrong according to his new most trusted source. He does all this whilst chastising anyone else on the forum for speculating. The real world is probably a more informed place to live than twitterland. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peaty FC Posted July 22, 2020 Report Share Posted July 22, 2020 On 7/20/2020 at 5:30 PM, javeajag said: Maybe its just be me but on looking at that graph again I think we could superimpose the teams performance over the last decade or so reasonably accurately Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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