Whitelees jag Posted June 4, 2020 Report Share Posted June 4, 2020 10 minutes ago, Dick Dastardly said: I suspect it is more that we were not interested in his wage demands rather than him. We defo weren't interested..Sod was desperate to come back but it was made clear we werent interested..nothing to do with money...big mistake imo from archie...we signed McGinn and the Czech guy instead.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlsarmy Posted June 4, 2020 Report Share Posted June 4, 2020 16 minutes ago, Whitelees jag said: We defo weren't interested..Sod was desperate to come back but it was made clear we werent interested..nothing to do with money...big mistake imo from archie...we signed McGinn and the Czech guy instead.. Not true , we were in for SOD , he decided to go to Kilmarnock. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emsca Posted June 4, 2020 Report Share Posted June 4, 2020 48 minutes ago, jlsarmy said: Not true , we were in for SOD , he decided to go to Kilmarnock. Think we are drifting into the territory of " i know something you dont know because a guy with a dog down the pub told me and he knows his brothers best mate" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlsarmy Posted June 4, 2020 Report Share Posted June 4, 2020 12 minutes ago, Emsca said: Think we are drifting into the territory of " i know something you dont know because a guy with a dog down the pub told me and he knows his brothers best mate" Friend of the family Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitelees jag Posted June 4, 2020 Report Share Posted June 4, 2020 1 hour ago, jlsarmy said: Friend of the family Pish..never contacted him.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlsarmy Posted June 4, 2020 Report Share Posted June 4, 2020 42 minutes ago, Whitelees jag said: Pish..never contacted him.. Not true ,Lee McCulloch offered him a 3 yr contract, we didn’t whether he would he would have came back is doubtful anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Passenger Posted June 4, 2020 Report Share Posted June 4, 2020 The biggest mistake we made in recent times in regard to right backs was ignoring Liam Smith when Hearts freed him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted June 4, 2020 Report Share Posted June 4, 2020 35 minutes ago, Dark Passenger said: The biggest mistake we made in recent times in regard to right backs was ignoring Liam Smith when Hearts freed him. Is that really a worse mistake than signing Williamson ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elevenone Posted June 4, 2020 Report Share Posted June 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Dark Passenger said: The biggest mistake we made in recent times in regard to right backs was ignoring Liam Smith when Hearts freed him. Did we not have an option to sign Lyle Taylor for 35k from Sheff Utd back when he was on loan but never stumped up the cash? Same amount we would splurge a few years later signing Miles Storey. If my memory serves me well that was one of the biggest mistakes in recent times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted June 4, 2020 Report Share Posted June 4, 2020 1 hour ago, elevenone said: Did we not have an option to sign Lyle Taylor for 35k from Sheff Utd back when he was on loan but never stumped up the cash? Same amount we would splurge a few years later signing Miles Storey. If my memory serves me well that was one of the biggest mistakes in recent times. I seem to mind we were close to signing Lyle Taylor in the summer of 2014, just missing out with our bid. Had we even drawn the last game of the 13-14 season (at home to County) we'd have ended up 3 league places better off. Tend to believe we didn't get him due to budgetary reasons rather than valuation reasons and downing tools after yon midweek Hearts game cost us big time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One t in Scotland Posted June 4, 2020 Report Share Posted June 4, 2020 1 hour ago, lady-isobel-barnett said: I seem to mind we were close to signing Lyle Taylor in the summer of 2014, just missing out with our bid. Had we even drawn the last game of the 13-14 season (at home to County) we'd have ended up 3 league places better off. Tend to believe we didn't get him due to budgetary reasons rather than valuation reasons and downing tools after yon midweek Hearts game cost us big time. He went to League 1 ( Scunthorpe ) who could no doubt offer him far better wages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted June 4, 2020 Report Share Posted June 4, 2020 7 hours ago, jlsarmy said: Not true ,Lee McCulloch offered him a 3 yr contract, we didn’t whether he would he would have came back is doubtful anyway. We never offered him anything, Killie approached a week after he was made aware to us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
policemans whistle Posted June 5, 2020 Report Share Posted June 5, 2020 We approached and offered terms to many players, as did all clubs in Great Britain. Some players accepted and some players did not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exiledjag Posted June 5, 2020 Report Share Posted June 5, 2020 On 6/2/2020 at 8:36 PM, jaggy said: I think wee Stevie showed loads of commitment when he was forced to play left back for several games and as weebaw1 said he was constantly messed about by Archie I see your point about Lawless playing LWB but don't see this as anything special. Bannigan was also played in this position. Being asked to play out of position is part and parcel of the modern game and IMO doesn't attract a merit badge. It's what players are expected to do to help the mamager/team fill a problem position or execute a tactical plan! My doubt about his commitment was based on the number of games which I saw where he, like Cardle and Zanatta, just disappeared from the game eventually to be substituted. So afraid my opinion about his commitment remains unchanged! Why I wonder did Archibald not offer him a new contract? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weebaw1 Posted June 5, 2020 Report Share Posted June 5, 2020 6 minutes ago, exiledjag said: I see your point about Lawless playing LWB but don't see this as anything special. Bannigan was also played in this position. Being asked to play out of position is part and parcel of the modern game and IMO doesn't attract a merit badge. It's what players are expected to do to help the mamager/team fill a problem position or execute a tactical plan! My doubt about his commitment was based on the number of games which I saw where he, like Cardle and Zanatta, just disappeared from the game eventually to be substituted. So afraid my opinion about his commitment remains unchanged! Why I wonder did Archibald not offer him a new contract? Because this was one of his many mistakes, a combination of events that resulted in relegation. There is an excellent article in today’s herald in which Stevie discusses the very point about playing left back in addition to questioning how we managed to get relegated with a relatively talented squad. Hes hardly physically suited to playing there! Would Celtic have played Jinky there? Or Rangers Cooper or Henderson? It was crass stupidity. Stevie did well not to throw a hissy fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaggy Posted June 6, 2020 Report Share Posted June 6, 2020 1 hour ago, exiledjag said: I see your point about Lawless playing LWB but don't see this as anything special. Bannigan was also played in this position. Being asked to play out of position is part and parcel of the modern game and IMO doesn't attract a merit badge. It's what players are expected to do to help the mamager/team fill a problem position or execute a tactical plan! My doubt about his commitment was based on the number of games which I saw where he, like Cardle and Zanatta, just disappeared from the game eventually to be substituted. So afraid my opinion about his commitment remains unchanged! Why I wonder did Archibald not offer him a new contract? So would it have been acceptable to play Dools in goal in your opinion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elevenone Posted June 6, 2020 Report Share Posted June 6, 2020 Scott Fox leaves with immediate effect after invoking his release clause, would imagine thats a decent wage off the books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Passenger Posted June 6, 2020 Report Share Posted June 6, 2020 Can't say I'm surprised. Or disappointed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow & Redneck Posted June 6, 2020 Report Share Posted June 6, 2020 Happy to see Fox gone. Part of the problem, not the solution. Shouldn't have been brought back to the club in the first place. Best of luck for the rest of his career, but we can do better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARu-Strathbungo Posted June 6, 2020 Report Share Posted June 6, 2020 That is good news, overall Scott just did not play well in the last season, probably better for both parties that he is away. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted June 6, 2020 Report Share Posted June 6, 2020 One clean sheet all season was pretty poor. He must have something else lined up or its a very strange decision to leave a club and get no income for an unlimited amount of time. it was reported that none of McCalls signings had relegation clauses, Fox was a Caldwell signing so he may have had a relegation clause. Just guessing but think he would have been a higher earner anyway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinnyjag Posted June 6, 2020 Report Share Posted June 6, 2020 Not fussed about him leaving. I know I’m getting carried away but watched the recent Jagscast with Thomas Cerny, sure he is out of contract at Aberdeen, would he consider a return to Firhill? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Col Posted June 6, 2020 Report Share Posted June 6, 2020 Another baffling Caldwell signing that a blind man and his dug could see was a mistake. Good riddance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambies Lost Doo Posted June 6, 2020 Report Share Posted June 6, 2020 Best move for player and club. He's better than Div 1 and frees up wage. I was surprised he moved to us in first place. A promotion winning hero who got into Scotland squad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted June 6, 2020 Report Share Posted June 6, 2020 When he was with us the first time at least he recycled the ball quickly. Many a promising move started from the back in yon days. When he returned his attitude to speedy distribution was almost Cernyesque. Actually thought that Fox's lethargic approach to recycling was the equal of his other more reported failings. I wasn't over critical about most of our players last season as I believe our problems were more complex than simple lack of ability. Fox tho', is one I'm happy enough to see leave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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