sb1876 Posted May 29, 2020 Report Share Posted May 29, 2020 How do we interpret the guidance for restarting the football season? If the premier can start, why can't Thistle and the seaside league? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Jag Posted May 29, 2020 Report Share Posted May 29, 2020 The cost of testing, playing behind closed doors. SPFL only interested in getting premier league started because of the new super sky tv deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted May 30, 2020 Report Share Posted May 30, 2020 I suppose we interpret it any way we like. Everyone else seems to! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a f kincaid Posted May 30, 2020 Report Share Posted May 30, 2020 We can already see how this is being reported north and south of the border. Headlines shouting out football returning etc (but read the small print to see that it doesn't apply to the diddy leagues). Once these top-flight fixtures start lower league clubs will become (even more of) a sideshow. If clubs are confident they could survive playing behind closed doors yet find themselves too few in number to form a league (or are barred from being accommodated in an expanded higher league), it would be a disaster. Surely the SPFL/SFA have a moral responsibility to ensure that doesn't happen? Oh, haud oan... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted May 31, 2020 Report Share Posted May 31, 2020 If this weather keeps up and folk continue to stretch the boundaries of the advice on easing the lock-down then the date for re-starting any spectator sporting events is likely to be put back indefinately. The government may find it difficult controlling social distancing and the numbers of people meeting up but it's a different matter when it comes to licensing football grounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p12tfc Posted May 31, 2020 Report Share Posted May 31, 2020 My hope is that they find a way for the Championship to start and invite any teams from league 1&2 who can/want to play into that league. I’d say ourselves and Falkirk take part then they run with a 12 team league with two relegations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Jag Posted May 31, 2020 Report Share Posted May 31, 2020 3 minutes ago, p12tfc said: My hope is that they find a way for the Championship to start and invite any teams from league 1&2 who can/want to play into that league. I’d say ourselves and Falkirk take part then they run with a 12 team league with two relegations To sensible. That will never catch on in Scottish football. They should also be announcing what will happen if the league has to be prematurely cancelled again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted May 31, 2020 Report Share Posted May 31, 2020 31 minutes ago, p12tfc said: My hope is that they find a way for the Championship to start and invite any teams from league 1&2 who can/want to play into that league. I’d say ourselves and Falkirk take part then they run with a 12 team league with two relegations Unfortunately, the championship clubs are not interested Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Jag Posted May 31, 2020 Report Share Posted May 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, Lenziejag said: Unfortunately, the championship clubs are not interested At the moment at least 2 championship clubs, Ayr and QOS have said they could not afford to play behind closed doors, without getting financial support. As i have said before the SPFL should give every team the worst case scenario and find out who would still be able to play. Then take it from there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb1876 Posted May 31, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2020 2 hours ago, p12tfc said: My hope is that they find a way for the Championship to start and invite any teams from league 1&2 who can/want to play into that league. I’d say ourselves and Falkirk take part then they run with a 12 team league with two relegations That's what I was thinking too, if teams want to play surely the spfl have an obligation to arrange a suitable competition for those club's? Providing it meets all guidance and legislation. There should never be a rangers or Celtic game without other club's being able to do exactly the same. (Being able to pay the costs aside) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted May 31, 2020 Report Share Posted May 31, 2020 2 hours ago, p12tfc said: My hope is that they find a way for the Championship to start and invite any teams from league 1&2 who can/want to play into that league. I’d say ourselves and Falkirk take part then they run with a 12 team league with two relegations 2 hours ago, Lenziejag said: Unfortunately, the championship clubs are not interested ...and Brechin City will vote against it as a favour to Forfar who voted for City avoiding play offs......and Livingston and Hibernian will vote against it as Thistle and Falkirk sided with Hearts.....and, well i'm just making all this up but you get the gist? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted May 31, 2020 Report Share Posted May 31, 2020 4 hours ago, scotty said: If this weather keeps up and folk continue to stretch the boundaries of the advice on easing the lock-down then the date for re-starting any spectator sporting events is likely to be put back indefinately. The government may find it difficult controlling social distancing and the numbers of people meeting up but it's a different matter when it comes to licensing football grounds. Let’s just see how the actual numbers go over next 2-3 weeks. If it follows rest of Europe pattern it should continue to drop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted May 31, 2020 Report Share Posted May 31, 2020 1 hour ago, lady-isobel-barnett said: ...and Brechin City will vote against it as a favour to Forfar who voted for City avoiding play offs......and Livingston and Hibernian will vote against it as Thistle and Falkirk sided with Hearts.....and, well i'm just making all this up but you get the gist? Sounds a bit like how voting works in the Eurovision song contest 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARu-Strathbungo Posted May 31, 2020 Report Share Posted May 31, 2020 3 hours ago, Auld Jag said: At the moment at least 2 championship clubs, Ayr and QOS have said they could not afford to play behind closed doors, without getting financial support. As i have said before the SPFL should give every team the worst case scenario and find out who would still be able to play. Then take it from there. Todays papers had an excerpt of a European list of 'vulnerable' football teams and the article noted Rangers FC is number one in that list due to it dependence of match day revenue to run the club, it could be that Hearts might find there is a place in the SPL for them after all if RFC need to go into another phase of 'administration'? The link attached shows some of the massive disparity levels within European football. Have a look at page 66 to see the country that depends on match day revenue the most, this more than anything else makes me think C-19 is going to have a disproportionate impact on the Scottish game https://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Download/OfficialDocument/uefaorg/Clublicensing/02/63/79/75/2637975_DOWNLOAD.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Jag Posted May 31, 2020 Report Share Posted May 31, 2020 All premiership clubs meeting on Monday. Championship clubs meeting on Tuesday and league's 1 and 2 meeting on wednesday. Maybe more clarity after these meetings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowenBoys Posted May 31, 2020 Report Share Posted May 31, 2020 16 minutes ago, Auld Jag said: All premiership clubs meeting on Monday. Championship clubs meeting on Tuesday and league's 1 and 2 meeting on wednesday. Maybe more clarity after these meetings. As divisive as ever. Find out what the Premiership clubs want, feed it down to the Championship then dump on League 1 & 2. Unfortunately, I can't see the SPFL ever having a holistic approach to solving this problem. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Jag Posted May 31, 2020 Report Share Posted May 31, 2020 20 minutes ago, BowenBoys said: As divisive as ever. Find out what the Premiership clubs want, feed it down to the Championship then dump on League 1 & 2. Unfortunately, I can't see the SPFL ever having a holistic approach to solving this problem. Agree. The SPFL want the premier league to start no matter what it takes because of the new super duper sky deal. They might want the championship up and running as well at some point. The rest are just a pain as far as the SPFL are concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted May 31, 2020 Report Share Posted May 31, 2020 11 minutes ago, Auld Jag said: Agree. The SPFL want the premier league to start no matter what it takes because of the new super duper sky deal. They might want the championship up and running as well at some point. The rest are just a pain as far as the SPFL are concerned. The SPFL just want old firm to play everything else doesn’t matter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted June 1, 2020 Report Share Posted June 1, 2020 4 hours ago, Auld Jag said: All premiership clubs meeting on Monday. Championship clubs meeting on Tuesday and league's 1 and 2 meeting on wednesday. Maybe more clarity after these meetings. Anyone know for sure which one of those meetings PTFC will attend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaggy Posted June 1, 2020 Report Share Posted June 1, 2020 6 hours ago, Jaggernaut said: Anyone know for sure which one of those meetings PTFC will attend? League 1 & 2, we're now a League 1 club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted June 1, 2020 Report Share Posted June 1, 2020 4 hours ago, jaggy said: League 1 & 2, we're now a League 1 club Meekly joined them, tail between our legs, despite it being grossly unfair and probably open to legal challenge. A cuddly toy with no balls and no friends. I wonder what will happen if the "relegated" French team wins its court case. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e4b Posted June 1, 2020 Report Share Posted June 1, 2020 24 minutes ago, Jaggernaut said: Meekly joined them, tail between our legs, despite it being grossly unfair and probably open to legal challenge. A cuddly toy with no balls and no friends. I wonder what will happen if the "relegated" French team wins its court case. Unfortunately, this is the perception I also have. The club has been silent for 3 weeks now, whilst the rottweilers at Hearts at least appear to be doing what they can to oppose this farcical and catastrophic “relegation” of Hearts Thistle and Stranraer. Doubtless there is much happening behind the scenes as the scandal progresses. We await our board’s next statement with interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunfermline Jag Posted June 2, 2020 Report Share Posted June 2, 2020 I really cannot see a way in which a legal challenge would be successful. The best we could do is a re-run of the vote and there is no reason to think the outcome would be any different. It would simply be a waste of money we can't afford to throw away, IMO. Also, be careful of drawing comparisons with any case in another country. A case in Scotland will be decided by interpreting the rules of the SPFL. The rules in the French set up may be very different, leading to a different outcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinhead Posted June 2, 2020 Report Share Posted June 2, 2020 On 6/1/2020 at 1:40 PM, Jaggernaut said: Meekly joined them, tail between our legs, despite it being grossly unfair and probably open to legal challenge. A cuddly toy with no balls and no friends. I wonder what will happen if the "relegated" French team wins its court case. they are too busy posting rainbows and changing their profile photos to black to worry about football Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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