Dick Dastardly Posted July 14, 2020 Report Share Posted July 14, 2020 12 minutes ago, allyo said: Am I right in thinking we don't know who the referee is either? Hope it's not Willie Collum Has to be someone with 10 years legal experience. I'm not sure that criminally bad refereeing counts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted July 14, 2020 Report Share Posted July 14, 2020 I see Lachlan Cameron of Ayr United is making what I think are very good points about the need for a commissioner to remove all the self interest from Scottish football. He then unbelievably goes on to confirm that he will be providing financial support to Dundee United etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodstock Jag Posted July 14, 2020 Report Share Posted July 14, 2020 2 hours ago, Dick Dastardly said: Arbitration is rubbish compared to court. With court we get match reports at the end of each day. Arbitration we don't even know if it is started It’s almost as though having it sent to arbitration was a procedural defeat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted July 14, 2020 Report Share Posted July 14, 2020 24 minutes ago, Woodstock Jag said: It’s almost as though having it sent to arbitration was a procedural defeat. more like behind closed doors without any streaming or artificial crowd noise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinhead Posted July 14, 2020 Report Share Posted July 14, 2020 45 minutes ago, allyo said: I see Lachlan Cameron of Ayr United is making what I think are very good points about the need for a commissioner to remove all the self interest from Scottish football. He then unbelievably goes on to confirm that he will be providing financial support to Dundee United etc. Quite simply that guy is a tit with a very obvious axe to grind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted July 14, 2020 Report Share Posted July 14, 2020 5 minutes ago, Pinhead said: Quite simply that guy is a tit with a very obvious axe to grind I had to check if you were talking about Lachlan Cameron or Willie Collum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Kent Jag II Posted July 14, 2020 Report Share Posted July 14, 2020 1 hour ago, allyo said: I see Lachlan Cameron of Ayr United is making what I think are very good points about the need for a commissioner to remove all the self interest from Scottish football. He then unbelievably goes on to confirm that he will be providing financial support to Dundee United etc. I hope that he's not thinking of Nelly Doncaster? Or giving total power to the SPFL for next season? When's that vote due, is it this Friday? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exiledjag Posted July 14, 2020 Report Share Posted July 14, 2020 1 hour ago, allyo said: I see Lachlan Cameron of Ayr United is making what I think are very good points about the need for a commissioner to remove all the self interest from Scottish football. He then unbelievably goes on to confirm that he will be providing financial support to Dundee United etc.  27 minutes ago, Pinhead said: Quite simply that guy is a tit with a very obvious axe to grind Cameron has a quite perverse view of things. He said he would not vote for reconstruction if it meant ICT would be promoted over Ayr. Promoting ICT was "unfair" to Ayr! The fact that ICT finished 5 points ahead of Ayr with the same number of games played clearly escaped his notice. I wrote to him pointing out that using the same logic he must sure conclude that relegating Hearts, Stranraer and Thistle, the latter being two points adrift of his near neighbours QoS but with a game in hand, must also be unfair. I didn't expect a reply and didn't get one however the fact he is supporting Dundee Utd etc financially demonstrates he hasn't agreed with me. I agree with the above quotes but also with his idea for a superdouper decision making executive with strong leadership skills. Our game has needed this for sometime provided it isn't a McLennen or a Doncaster! That cowboy Barry Hearn would be ideal, oh and a single organisation (not both SFA & SPFL) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodstock Jag Posted July 14, 2020 Report Share Posted July 14, 2020 Well. https://news.stv.tv/sport/hearts-and-thistle-charged-by-sfa-over-court-action?top  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted July 14, 2020 Report Share Posted July 14, 2020 1 minute ago, Woodstock Jag said: Well. https://news.stv.tv/sport/hearts-and-thistle-charged-by-sfa-over-court-action?top  You have to love the utter shambles that is Scottish football .... in the middle of an arbitration procedure under the auspices of the sfa the sfa issue a notice of complaint to two parties .....nothing to see here 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodstock Jag Posted July 14, 2020 Report Share Posted July 14, 2020 They are probably working on the (safe) assumption that the arbitration panel will have made a decision before August, as instructed by the Court of Session. The SFA hearing date for the alleged breach of rules is set for after the Premiership season is supposed to have started, but presumably they need to give enough notice to the clubs involved ahead of that hearing (which is just over 3 weeks away). Worth re-iterating that the SFA's arbitration panel is operationally and legally independent in terms of its powers, remit and function from the SFA's Board and that the panel is chosen in part by the parties and then the chair by those nominees themselves. The SFA's compliance procedures and those overseeing them have nothing to do with the arbitration panel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG1970 Posted July 14, 2020 Report Share Posted July 14, 2020 10 minutes ago, Woodstock Jag said: Well. https://news.stv.tv/sport/hearts-and-thistle-charged-by-sfa-over-court-action?top  I like the "face disciplinary action".....   maybe they will relegate us two divisions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted July 14, 2020 Report Share Posted July 14, 2020 we come out fighting  https://ptfc.co.uk/ptfc-news/joint-club-statement-with-heart-of-midlothian/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodstock Jag Posted July 14, 2020 Report Share Posted July 14, 2020 How many club statements is that now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gianlucatoni Posted July 14, 2020 Report Share Posted July 14, 2020 There's got to be a film script made of this utter clusterf**k - utterly incredulous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted July 14, 2020 Report Share Posted July 14, 2020 9 minutes ago, Woodstock Jag said: How many club statements is that now? Who cares......court of arbitration here we come Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gianlucatoni Posted July 14, 2020 Report Share Posted July 14, 2020 9 minutes ago, Woodstock Jag said: How many club statements is that now? more than a few & fewer than you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muscat Jag Posted July 14, 2020 Report Share Posted July 14, 2020 Just when you thought this couldn't get any nastier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Peebles Tackle Posted July 14, 2020 Report Share Posted July 14, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Muscat Jag said: Just when you thought this couldn't get any nastier. It’s what’s known as a ‘dick move’ by the SPFL (SFA?). Hopefully we can use to our advantage. Edited July 14, 2020 by Gary Peebles Tackle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted July 14, 2020 Report Share Posted July 14, 2020 So what sanctions can the SFA impose? A fine? I wouldn't have thought they could do anything which would affect league standings but maybe they could ban us from Scottish Cup or signing players. Anyone got the inclination to look it up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinhead Posted July 14, 2020 Report Share Posted July 14, 2020 Looks like they are trying to get the lawyer teams working on 2 things at the same time to try and divide and conquer. I say it is now time to abandon the SFA arbitration and slap an injunction in on the start of the season. Time to burn this shithole to the ground and take as many down with us as we can. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted July 14, 2020 Report Share Posted July 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, scotty said: So what sanctions can the SFA impose? A fine? I wouldn't have thought they could do anything which would affect league standings but maybe they could ban us from Scottish Cup or signing players. Anyone got the inclination to look it up? No doubt they will fine us whatever we get in compensation from the arbitration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinhead Posted July 14, 2020 Report Share Posted July 14, 2020 24 minutes ago, Woodstock Jag said: How many club statements is that now? You genuinely sound like you are enjoying this, are you really a jags fan? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodstock Jag Posted July 14, 2020 Report Share Posted July 14, 2020 10 minutes ago, scotty said: So what sanctions can the SFA impose? A fine? I wouldn't have thought they could do anything which would affect league standings but maybe they could ban us from Scottish Cup or signing players. Anyone got the inclination to look it up? Potentially anything up to expulsion from the league, though as others have noted the Court of Session decision suggested sanctions of that kind might themselves be legally challengeable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodstock Jag Posted July 14, 2020 Report Share Posted July 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, Pinhead said: You genuinely sound like you are enjoying this, are you really a jags fan? Am I enjoying our Club issuing more statements than Rangers? No. Am I really a Jags fan? Yes. Next question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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