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Tommy Sheridan - Today's The Day You Get The Jail


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I remember when there were a load of folk on the old board jumping to defend the guy, saying they "knew his mum", he would never do that, honest Tommy, all that crap.

 

Wonder if anyone is as confident of this tosser now? Go on Tommy, you cost us millions you so you can pretend your innocence, you f****n *baw**g.

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I remember when there were a load of folk on the old board jumping to defend the guy, saying they "knew his mum", he would never do that, honest Tommy, all that crap.

 

Wonder if anyone is as confident of this tosser now? Go on Tommy, you cost us millions you so you can pretend your innocence, you f****n *baw**g.

 

Hard to disagree with that. Fortunately, I wasn't one of 'Tommys Forum Defence Team' and sussed the ersehole out years ago.

 

His ego has been in urgent need of reduction surgery for many years now. He's a delusional, self-important tosspot that deserves all he gets IMO. :thumbdown:

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Sheridan and his whole mob were a bunch of fan-dans, but their fan-danny-ness pales in comparison to that vermin Murdoch and his horrible, vile evil empire. Who really gives a monkey what any consenting adults do behind closed doors? Maybe if we had media that vaguely respected the privacy of the individual then we would have a shed load less of these expensive court cases. The gossip vampires who buy his crap newspapers are the real guilty parties here.

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This whole episode really paints the Scottish Socialist Party and people associated with them in a bad light. The left in Scotland had an opening with the Parliament but they will struggle to recover be it SSP, Solidarity or whoever. It's a real messy sordid affair. Never been a fan of Sheridan as I felt he was part of the rent-a-mob brigade, shouting people down, promising things that would never happen, banging on about his Granny from Govan as if that was some kind of status symbol and condesending the people he was supposed to represent. He's now going for his second degree (liked to keep his one from Stirling quiet) and is coupled up with Aamer Anwar who to me is another trouble maker on a power trip.

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Sheridan and his whole mob were a bunch of fan-dans, but their fan-danny-ness pales in comparison to that vermin Murdoch and his horrible, vile evil empire. Who really gives a monkey what any consenting adults do behind closed doors? Maybe if we had media that vaguely respected the privacy of the individual then we would have a shed load less of these expensive court cases. The gossip vampires who buy his crap newspapers are the real guilty parties here.

It's the fact that he believed (and still believes) that he's above the law. If it doesn't matter why did he try to suppress the story? I encountered TS in Pollok many years ago and it was clear then that he was a guy who used those around him and sold himself on a manufactured 'man of the people' image. Not a nice guy, but definitely charismatic - which these days seems enough to trade on.

 

On your point about the culpability of those who consume gutter publications, while I agree that these papers can be the 'lowest of the low', they are the most consumed in the country. And it's more than just Murdoch's papers. There's a huge demand for this guff, and I think that's a sad indictment.

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Was a while ago now, but was very involved in the SSP for a significant while. Had met TS and various other people involved in the trial. Had obviously been on Tommy's side when this all came to light, but several people who were forced (against their wishes) to come out against Tommy during the initial trial totally changed my opinion of everything. He is nothing but a prize ******, unconcerned about anything other than his public image and totally prepared to destroy everything he and others worked so hard for just to protect it. Nothing but complete and utter contempt for the pr!ck these days!

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If it doesn't matter why did he try to suppress the story?

 

Because even radicals are aware of how important their public image is to their election chances. Tommy seems acutely aware, maybe even a little obsessive about his. Why a 'revolutionary' is so obsessed with elections is beyond me, but there you are.

 

Still, much as we are all laying into him, it's still worth remembering the good times and the successful popular uprising against the Poll Tax and Thatcher of which he played no small part.

 

Why is it Britain that seems to have the most rabid and intrusive media? We've seen recently just how terrified Government is of Murdoch and in a democracy no-one should be able to wield such influence over our elected members. I doubt we'll ever get any workable privacy laws here now - if the press couldn't be civilised after the death of Princess Diana, then there's little hope left now. Perhaps there should be a redefinition of what a newspaper is and the tabloids get reclassified as gossip comics or something.

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Was a while ago now, but was very involved in the SSP for a significant while. Had met TS and various other people involved in the trial. Had obviously been on Tommy's side when this all came to light, but several people who were forced (against their wishes) to come out against Tommy during the initial trial totally changed my opinion of everything. He is nothing but a prize ******, unconcerned about anything other than his public image and totally prepared to destroy everything he and others worked so hard for just to protect it. Nothing but complete and utter contempt for the pr!ck these days!

 

Excellent post, IMO. I remember canvassing for him in (IIRC) the General Election of 1992. I noticed then that there was something 'messianic' about his self-presentation then and within a year or two I'd drifted back into the 'mainstream' organisations: union and LP.

 

From that point onwards, the whole SML thing, as it then was, just seemed to be more and more about the persona of Tommy. I found this situation really pretty galling as the more the media were focussing on the man himself, the more that good, hard-working and principled people I knew that were still in the organisation were being tainted, by association, with Tommy's excesses. The culmination of this being at the first trial when several of those genuinely good people were forced to testify against him - stating the truth, and expressing their contempt for the vile rag that is the SNotW - only to be called "scabs" by that maggot, Sheridan. Anybody who's ever been involved in the Labour movement will know that being called a scab is the ultimate insult and the perpetrator of such bile deserves to be locked up for a very long time if only the strength of that unjustifiable slur alone.

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